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school: a good thing or a bad thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:44 am
by Romulus777
the reason I call good in the title is because It helps me check this (among others) forum. so I leave this question to you is school good or bad? (if you vote please post why.)

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:12 pm
by jb
absolutly, school is a good thing. It not only helps you learn math, science, geogorphy,ect but teaches you how to deal with others, sports, teamwork (when you play sports), ect. And higher eductation just helps you refine the things you will need for a sucsesfull career. SO yea school is good!

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:37 pm
by Zachariah
and even tho Jb doesn't show it some times. School also teaches you how to spell !

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:54 pm
by Romulus777
:lol: that was funny pepito

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:06 pm
by MassChAoS
School is a good idea, just the school system fails us at times.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:14 pm
by General_Sun
People crusaded for millenia for the right to have an education... How can it be a bad thing?

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:42 pm
by MassChAoS
Similarly to how spiritualility is a good thing, yet religious institutions fail us.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:16 am
by Zachariah
or how star trek tng is awesome, but enterprise sucks nuts.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:59 am
by Romulus777
Pepito wrote:or how star trek tng is awesome, but enterprise sucks nuts.
(rock)

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:04 pm
by lord_kungai
School is evil

To be evil is to live

Therefore school is life

My logic maybe flawed, but at least my spelling is good... ;)

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:30 pm
by Finn_bryant
Is the school system that bad? I live in the UK, so I assume you are referring to the US system that I know nothing about except that you have to drop down years if you don't pass your exams (in the UK you can fail every test until GCSEs (exams at 16) and it doesn't matter). Then again, I go to a good school, in the countryside (which always has better schools for some reason, even though the job pays less).

but I will make one point, education is good, no matter what, it is good. school isn't necessarily the best form of education. I personally dislike the exam system (which exists in all school systems as far as I know) with a passion. this is probably because I am dyslexic and so do not answer the way they want me to*.

another thing I dislike is the way they lie to make things easier to explain, for example in primary school I was taught about solids liquids and gases, one thing that was a solid was glass, I thought, that makes sense, it is hard and doesn't flow. then someone outside school says that it is a liquid, they explain that it is just a VERY slow liquid that flows over 1000s of years, church windows (I'm talking the 1000+ year old ones) are thicker on the bottom than on the top, I believe them, and mention it in school. the teacher looks at me funny and says tat its defiantly solid, so I give up and admit its a solid. then at secondary school, in physics I'm taught that glass is actually a liquid! THOSE BASTARDS!!! I KNEW IT!!! then I'm pissed off that my teachers had lied to me in primary school. a few months ago I got my sister to look it up in a uni level physics book (don't know why a medical student needs one :? ) and apparently its actually a 'non-crystalline' solid. THOSE BASTARDS!!! now I'm all confused about it, it would have been far easier to just explain that glass was special from the very beginning. there are many other similar lies.



* for example, if they ask in a biology paper, Describe the structure of a leaf.
do I put, it is flat, with a large surface area, and veins protruding from a central stem,
or it has a cuticle, then an upper epidermis, then a palisade mesophyll etc. etc.? its only 2 marks, so there isn't much time to think about it, if I put both they assume I don't know what I'm talking about, so I don't get marks... how is that fair? they are both correct answers! and it happens all the time. I put the right answer in, but its the wrong right answer!!! (I always thought this happened to everyone but it turns out that most people are able to work out which answer is the right one, I still don't get how.

rampage of hate ended, I'm done.

school didn't teach me to spell, it taught me to spell check

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:21 am
by lord_kungai
Finn_bryant wrote:but I will make one point, education is good, no matter what, it is good. school isn't necessarily the best form of education. I personally dislike the exam system (which exists in all school systems as far as I know) with a passion. this is probably because I am dyslexic and so do not answer the way they want me to. for example, if they ask in a biology paper, Describe the structure of a leaf.
do I put, it is flat, with a large surface area, and veins protruding from a central stem,
or it has a cuticle, then an upper epidermis, then a palisade mesophyll etc. etc.? its only 2 marks, so there isn't much time to think about it, if I put both they assume I don't know what I'm talking about, so I don't get marks... how is that fair? they are both correct answers! and it happens all the time. I put the right answer in, but its the wrong right answer!!! (I always thought this happened to everyone but it turns out that most people are able to work out which answer is the right one, I still don't get how.
Hmmm...

This happen(ed/s) to me quite often, but on a much larger scale. The Indian system was modelled around the early British one. So in ICSE, when asked a question such as: Describe photosynthesis (4 marks. Therefore 8 points are needed), I would write an answer that gave details about the photosynthetic process, but which was not mentioned in the book. Hence I got the answer wrong.

It was only near the end of my 10th std. that I realised that school really doesn't give you or even ask you for knowledge. It simply gives you the ability to absorb information and present the same in an appropriate manner, and then tests you on that ability. And if you pick up a few facts on the way, all the better for you. For knowledge, there is always wikipedia... :D

Finn_bryant wrote:school didn't teach me to spell, it taught me to spell check
That was more or less it's purpose, or so I believe I have learnt...
Finn_bryant wrote:another thing I dislike is the way they lie to make things easier to explain, for example in primary school I was taught about solids liquids and gases, one thing that was a solid was glass, I thought, that makes sense, it is hard and doesn't flow. then someone outside school says that it is a liquid, they explain that it is just a VERY slow liquid that flows over 1000s of years, church windows (I'm talking the 1000+ year old ones) are thicker on the bottom than on the top, I believe them, and mention it in school. the teacher looks at me funny and says tat its defiantly solid, so I give up and admit its a solid. then at secondary school, in physics I'm taught that glass is actually a liquid! THOSE BASTARDS!!! I KNEW IT!!! then I'm pissed off that my teachers had lied to me in primary school. a few months ago I got my sister to look it up in a uni level physics book (don't know why a medical student needs one :? ) and apparently its actually a 'non-crystalline' solid. THOSE BASTARDS!!! now I'm all confused about it, it would have been far easier to just explain that glass was special from the very beginning. there are many other similar lies.
Similar thing happened to me, but about the fundamental structure of the universe and whether it is particulate ar waveform. I still haven't got the answer, and I completely understand you... THOSE BASTARDS!!! :twisted:

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:03 pm
by Romulus777
W00T! I created a contrivertial (school dosen't teach spelling Pep) topic (again)!

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:12 pm
by jb
Well I agree exams are not the best tool to measure. I know a lot of people that could ACE the exams and not really learn the subject matter...

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:51 pm
by MassChAoS
jb wrote:Well I agree exams are not the best tool to measure. I know a lot of people that could ACE the exams and not really learn the subject matter...
So thats why you can't spell...