The passing on of a classic and awesome mod..
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:43 am
To the Chaos developing team and to all of the chaos players:
This message is in response to rflagg’s current post
(rflagg quote removed) - ep
Recently I have done a lot of fragging on q2chaos and have gotten q2chaos up and running on my own server as well. I’ve also spent a lot of time helping Mr.G in his efforts to improve and work on the current .dll/.so (I say .so because Mr.G has spents lots of time with me improving the .so and getting it up and running on my linux server. Through testing I have found that there are VERY much needed fixes and improvements that Mr.G has done a awesome job with in his new updates. I know that there are many players including myself who are very thankful for Mr. G to come along and make such updates…. Of which some important updates have been to prevent certain bots/cheats that without Mr.G would never of been able to be prevented. For this we thank Mr.G for his time, efforts and seriousness in this important matter for all of us that still play q2chaos.
I do understand that the chaos developing team has moved on and in doing so has left q2chaos behind…. Not in anyway do I look down upon these highly respected individuals such as yourself Rflagg, but I praise you guys for the efforts and the time that you have made with chaos and to create such a fun fragging atmosphere for us all… but there comes a time when everyone moves on.. the whole “in with the new out with the old” .. but that does not mean that some of us don’t still enjoy coming back and playing this great classic game q2chaos.. and for that instance there are some of us like myself who don’t favor the new games like ut, q3 and etc and would prefer to stick around with q2 because of how we enjoy the game play and continue to have tons of fun playing it. I understand that everyone has their own taste and flavor so I can not speak for all when I say that.. some of you might very much so enjoy UT or Q3.. it’s just that I don’t care for it and prefer q2. But at the same time I say great job with the work and progress that you have made in UT and new advancements/games.
The reason for my post comes from the following concern……
It is has been made clear that the current chaos developers no longer have the time or interest in q2chaos and the “old” game.. and are focused on the “new” chaos. Thumbs up, GJ guys… but let’s not throw away the “old” into the trash, but hand it down to the folks who still love and care for the game. Rflagg: I know you have stated that you are looking for someone else to update the q2chaos site .. such as I have provided Screen shots for.. and you would like to hand it over to someone else who can update and give it some loving… in this respect… why don’t you guys hand over q2chaos including the Website (which rflagg has already stated he wanted to do) as well as the .dll/.so etc. etc. to someone who is still willing to give it the luving and care that all of us q2chaos fans think it deserves. I also play q2gloom and a long time ago the makers of gloom (team reaction) did that very same thing. They passed it onto a very trusted and respected individual names r1ch and gave him full control over the mod as they focused on “new” horizons. R1ch has done an excellent job with gloom updating the site, dll, .so (he compiled a special .so for my previous server because it would no longer run and has helped me an individual of q2gloom in many ways.. such as he has done to the whole gloom community) R1ch has made much needed updates as far as bugs, protection and several other factors.. R1ch has also added upon request many fun factors into gloom in which we have all enjoyed tremendously…..gloom would not still be pumping if it were not for him.. I’m very thankful that Team Reaction did hand it over to him and not just leave it as a stray dog. In this regard I say let’s turn over q2chaos to Mr.G and let him do updates on both the website and the mod itself and let the “Chaos team” go on to new horizons and not have to worry about q2chaos…. I highly respect Mr.G and all of his efforts.. including individual help that he has done for me. Why not put q2chaos in the hands of someone who is willing to put time and loving into this “old Classic mod” that many of us still enjoy tremendously and would not like to see it become lost. I have talked to Mr. G about this and I’m pretty sure he would not only be up for it but cares about being involved with it… and of course Mr.G would not do it on his own, but the community of us who still play q2chaos would be willing to aid him and provide any assistance and support that he wants because we too still care about this mod.
If the Chaos team would agree to this then I could see wonderful growth and support still emerge and come from q2chaos.. but if it is not passed on to someone who will take care of it .. since you guys are busy and focused on your new, exciting progress and development… it will be sadly thrown in the dumpster…. As the highly respected developers of this great game I ask you to pass q2chaos onto the Community that still cares and allows us (Mr.G) see fit to taking care of it since we are the ones that continue to spend time, efforts, money (in my case since I have a q2chaos server) and still have a blast playing it. Why not pass it on and give Mr.G control… I only see fantastic growth and improvement to come from doing so.. as once active players of such a great mod that people like myself are still active and caring of.. you (as in the players who have moved on to newer games) of all people should understand my concern and request …. And should feel respect in honoring the fans and q2chaos by keeping it alive.. who knows it could even spark fuel and fire for more future growth of chaos as new progress and new servers (such as mine) will bring in new people and new ideas.
So what do you say… LONG LIVE CHAOS!… lets promote growth, strength, involvement, activity in this community of chaotic fun by passing it on to those who will give it the loving it deserves and needs rather then letting it die out by not doing so.
Yours in Fun Fragging Always
Ashaman de la {Moo}
Epoch{Moo}
This message is in response to rflagg’s current post
(rflagg quote removed) - ep
Recently I have done a lot of fragging on q2chaos and have gotten q2chaos up and running on my own server as well. I’ve also spent a lot of time helping Mr.G in his efforts to improve and work on the current .dll/.so (I say .so because Mr.G has spents lots of time with me improving the .so and getting it up and running on my linux server. Through testing I have found that there are VERY much needed fixes and improvements that Mr.G has done a awesome job with in his new updates. I know that there are many players including myself who are very thankful for Mr. G to come along and make such updates…. Of which some important updates have been to prevent certain bots/cheats that without Mr.G would never of been able to be prevented. For this we thank Mr.G for his time, efforts and seriousness in this important matter for all of us that still play q2chaos.
I do understand that the chaos developing team has moved on and in doing so has left q2chaos behind…. Not in anyway do I look down upon these highly respected individuals such as yourself Rflagg, but I praise you guys for the efforts and the time that you have made with chaos and to create such a fun fragging atmosphere for us all… but there comes a time when everyone moves on.. the whole “in with the new out with the old” .. but that does not mean that some of us don’t still enjoy coming back and playing this great classic game q2chaos.. and for that instance there are some of us like myself who don’t favor the new games like ut, q3 and etc and would prefer to stick around with q2 because of how we enjoy the game play and continue to have tons of fun playing it. I understand that everyone has their own taste and flavor so I can not speak for all when I say that.. some of you might very much so enjoy UT or Q3.. it’s just that I don’t care for it and prefer q2. But at the same time I say great job with the work and progress that you have made in UT and new advancements/games.
The reason for my post comes from the following concern……
It is has been made clear that the current chaos developers no longer have the time or interest in q2chaos and the “old” game.. and are focused on the “new” chaos. Thumbs up, GJ guys… but let’s not throw away the “old” into the trash, but hand it down to the folks who still love and care for the game. Rflagg: I know you have stated that you are looking for someone else to update the q2chaos site .. such as I have provided Screen shots for.. and you would like to hand it over to someone else who can update and give it some loving… in this respect… why don’t you guys hand over q2chaos including the Website (which rflagg has already stated he wanted to do) as well as the .dll/.so etc. etc. to someone who is still willing to give it the luving and care that all of us q2chaos fans think it deserves. I also play q2gloom and a long time ago the makers of gloom (team reaction) did that very same thing. They passed it onto a very trusted and respected individual names r1ch and gave him full control over the mod as they focused on “new” horizons. R1ch has done an excellent job with gloom updating the site, dll, .so (he compiled a special .so for my previous server because it would no longer run and has helped me an individual of q2gloom in many ways.. such as he has done to the whole gloom community) R1ch has made much needed updates as far as bugs, protection and several other factors.. R1ch has also added upon request many fun factors into gloom in which we have all enjoyed tremendously…..gloom would not still be pumping if it were not for him.. I’m very thankful that Team Reaction did hand it over to him and not just leave it as a stray dog. In this regard I say let’s turn over q2chaos to Mr.G and let him do updates on both the website and the mod itself and let the “Chaos team” go on to new horizons and not have to worry about q2chaos…. I highly respect Mr.G and all of his efforts.. including individual help that he has done for me. Why not put q2chaos in the hands of someone who is willing to put time and loving into this “old Classic mod” that many of us still enjoy tremendously and would not like to see it become lost. I have talked to Mr. G about this and I’m pretty sure he would not only be up for it but cares about being involved with it… and of course Mr.G would not do it on his own, but the community of us who still play q2chaos would be willing to aid him and provide any assistance and support that he wants because we too still care about this mod.
If the Chaos team would agree to this then I could see wonderful growth and support still emerge and come from q2chaos.. but if it is not passed on to someone who will take care of it .. since you guys are busy and focused on your new, exciting progress and development… it will be sadly thrown in the dumpster…. As the highly respected developers of this great game I ask you to pass q2chaos onto the Community that still cares and allows us (Mr.G) see fit to taking care of it since we are the ones that continue to spend time, efforts, money (in my case since I have a q2chaos server) and still have a blast playing it. Why not pass it on and give Mr.G control… I only see fantastic growth and improvement to come from doing so.. as once active players of such a great mod that people like myself are still active and caring of.. you (as in the players who have moved on to newer games) of all people should understand my concern and request …. And should feel respect in honoring the fans and q2chaos by keeping it alive.. who knows it could even spark fuel and fire for more future growth of chaos as new progress and new servers (such as mine) will bring in new people and new ideas.
So what do you say… LONG LIVE CHAOS!… lets promote growth, strength, involvement, activity in this community of chaotic fun by passing it on to those who will give it the loving it deserves and needs rather then letting it die out by not doing so.
Yours in Fun Fragging Always
Ashaman de la {Moo}
Epoch{Moo}