Challenge 4 Choas: Cooperative Weapons/Cooperative Vehicles

vernies_garden · Post by **vernies_garden** » Mon May 24, 2004 6:31 am

wouldn't it be cool to have weapons that take two people to use? like a and ion painter/redemer where if some one is aiming the ion painter at something and someone else fires a redmemer it goes to that target. or possibly vehicles that work kinda like voltron and create combos

maybe have that cool transformers ability and turn into mechs. i'm prolly making crazy impossible coding ideas but wouldnt it be crazy awesome go nuts fun?

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Mon May 24, 2004 11:47 am

i wont post what i think about those but my thoughts are negative,also

1.its chaos not choas

vernies_garden · Post by **vernies_garden** » Mon May 24, 2004 11:41 pm

sorry about the spelling, a bit of dyslexia. and i didn't catch it in time. but why would that be a bad idea? it would bring elements that no one has put out there. and promote team play, i know it would be difficult to set up do to the crazy nature of some of the game play but in assult it wouldn't be to harsh. nor even creating a gametype all it's own

chamalkan · Post by **chamalkan** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:57 am

that's a thought I had a few times lately. a team based weapon like the LINK gun. I came up with a modified BIO launcher:
you know that you can charge up the blob so it's bigger and spit's out smaller blobs. Did you also know that you can fire primary fire into the bog blob to make it an even bigger blob?
Now imagine three people shooting into one blob and making it bigger and last longer. The little blobs would come out for half a minute or so: stick it to the seeling and every enemy that passes by has a chance to get hit.

chamalkan · Post by **chamalkan** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:58 am

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STUPID DOUBLE POST

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missed the delete buton.
I'm too much used to boards that don't have one

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Tue May 25, 2004 11:04 am

1.it would not be possible to code bots to do it imo
2.it would be impossible to do on public servers,on thoose none even knows what teamplay means
3.it would be a bit annoying to not be able to use a wep alone properly

jb · Post by jb » Tue May 25, 2004 11:57 am

Yea there are some issues with a two person weapon. Still may be fun

vernies_garden · Post by **vernies_garden** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:34 pm

okay, well hand weapons aside, how about cooperative vehicles? no can tell me the wouldnt enjoy going voltron! or just having the vehicles morph like how the levi's alt fire transforms, but intsead of just an alt fire the vehicle turns into a mech

i'd like to see that bio gun too chamalkan

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Tue May 25, 2004 4:35 pm

isnt the bender one already?

Post by **Shadowstar** » Tue May 25, 2004 6:54 pm

From a mapper's perspective, I had a thought towards a future level design, where there are four "turrets" on this big ship. Normally, the turrets work like regular energy turrets, but if players get into all 4 turrets and use the link mode into the same spot, about midway between all four, it channels the beam into a huge blast that looks like an ion blast, but is about 10 times larger, and hits the enemy base (which is another ship), potentially killing every enemy inside. I'm not sure how feasible it is, but I know that the radius of the ion blast can be adjusted in the properties of the ion cannon actor (so you can basically make an uber-ion cannon that takes out the whole map if you want). I believe it could be possible to do something like this using advanced AI scripts, and possibly some complex trigger schemes. But that's a mapping thing, so not really what you had in mind.

Hedge-o-Matic · Post by **Hedge-o-Matic** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:08 pm

vernies_garden wrote:okay, well hand weapons aside, how about cooperative vehicles? no can tell me the wouldnt enjoy going voltron! or just having the vehicles morph like how the levi's alt fire transforms, but intsead of just an alt fire the vehicle turns into a mech

i'd like to see that bio gun too chamalkan

Actually, I've started designing just such a system for "combining" vehicles. But the problem lies in getting two people to do something together. I assume since getting a driver and gunner to work together is impossible, more detailed cooperation is also a pipe dream.

vernies_garden · Post by **vernies_garden** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:14 pm

not necessarily a pipe dream, just got gotta make it worth it, if you have a driver and a gunner its really hard to gun when you are bouncing around, but if you make it more powerful to join than just maning your own tank people would dig it

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:45 pm

the highest level of teamwork ive seen

When im sniping raptors/players and blasting scorpions away some ass decides to hop in and drive into the water(ending my rampage,killing me)

Post by **Shadowstar** » Tue May 25, 2004 10:30 pm

If you play in serious games, or clan matches, especially those at public events, like the ones that I run periodically, you can often achieve a much higher level of team coordination that you would in most typical online games. In these situations, gameplay features that support extended coordination will really shine, and do indeed make the game much more entertaining.

For instance, you could develop a vehicle, where the gunner has, say, a rocket launcher, but it is a dumbfire rocket launcher. The pilot has no weapons, but as he drives he can designate targets, which are fed to the rocket launcher, and then if the gunner aims at those targets, they will auto-lock, and when he fires the rockets will chase the target, making the weapon much more powerful, but relying on both gunner and driver to be fully effective. Even more complex and interesting combinations are possible.

vernies_garden · Post by **vernies_garden** » Tue May 25, 2004 11:44 pm

For instance, you could develop a vehicle, where the gunner has, say, a rocket launcher, but it is a dumbfire rocket launcher. The pilot has no weapons, but as he drives he can designate targets, which are fed to the rocket launcher, and then if the gunner aims at those targets, they will auto-lock, and when he fires the rockets will chase the target, making the weapon much more powerful, but relying on both gunner and driver to be fully effective. Even more complex and interesting combinations are possible.

THANKYOU! that is the kinda idea's i was thinking, yea the mech idea is diff but still that idea kills, it would be a cool thing for say the chaos mode? but there are tons of ideas that could make those team play vehicles more that practical, and more desirable. most people play the hack-n-slash unreal and i think miss out on the strategy that killing can be.