Is it possible?

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d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4
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Is it possible?

Post by d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 »

Would it be possible to make a map that was a house of mirrors :idea: with functioning reflections in the mirrors. If so, I would not be able to make it (i have no mapping knowledgs). thx.

PS. A map for ut99 was made that supported a functional mirror. It did not use pixel shading, it was actually a render window.
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Post by ChaosJester »

Oh please dont try. HOM is bad enough when it is unintentional... but an entire map with that idea sounds scary.(shudders) Wait now I know its more scary than the movies... Edit: if it is not a multiple reflection it would be cool. water texs may have the ability but I am not sure if the editor will do it stock. I imagine the engine could do it but I am not sure how complex that would be.
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Post by Gen_Identikal »

House of mirrors would kill your framerate. Think about it...if 2 mirrors are facing each other, the reflections would be infinite, although i think uengine 2 stops at 3 reflections deep.
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Post by neolith »

It is AFAIK not possible. The engine is only DX7 and does not allow for a) real mirrors and b) portals facing each other.

BTW, real facing mirrors are not possible with todays engines. You need a raytracer to do that. I know of only one engine that can raytrace in realtime and it does not run on a PC.
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Post by ChaosJester »

Oddly enough, I have seen a game that could raytrace in realtime and it was on a console. I wonder if a graphics engine maker that was so inclined could do it on PC
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Post by neolith »

ChaosJester wrote:Oddly enough, I have seen a game that could raytrace in realtime and it was on a console. I wonder if a graphics engine maker that was so inclined could do it on PC
Real raytracing? I doubt that. If that'd be possible I would spend a lot less time in front of my PC waiting for max to calculate some refractions... ;)

Which game was that? I'd like to know more about it!
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Post by ChaosJester »

I am not sure if it was real raytracing, but it most definitely was a real mirror effect, so if that is any indication as to whether or not there was real time raytracing I don't know. What made the cool effect even better was that it was dynamically moving water that had this effect. The game is Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker. It was only in a short battle sequence though, and towards the end. Good Luck, you'll be spending 15-16 hours to get to it and it requires a Gamecube.
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Post by GB »

just to refer back to the original question;

Mirrors = ergh :-/ but it can be done - angel mapper did a tut on making a reflective real time surface using a similar method to that of secuirity cameras -it aint pretty tho, and shadow details doesnt work. It also only works on bots, but have a look anyway : heres the link:

http://angelmapper.com/tutorials/reflections.htm

it can reflect rockets an such...but its horrible.
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Post by Tim »

Indeed, it is, lol.
BUT it's better than nothing. If you could set where does it reflect it would be a good security camera(who says security cameras' got good resolution?).
But as I said, it's better than nothing.
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Post by TKATK »

youve revived a ancient thread



you have to tihkn about the fact that it would only reflect bots....and afaik that is useless
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Post by SideWinder »

does that mean he gets the award you gave me some time back, ???
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Post by TKATK »

you revived a MUCH older thread....he gets bestowed the


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TKATK, I give to you:

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