will the melee weapons be available for other gametypes?

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LoQtUS wrote:( there can be only one)
good idea, how about a headshot only mode? You could call it lowlander or something, we don't know. :P
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In the original UT G.O.T.Y., There was the bastard sword as a melee weapon replacing impact hammers. There was also the mutator for bastard sword arena, where only the bastard swords prevailed. Why can you not do something like that in UT2k4? Here is an idea:

Signature melee weapons: instead of needing a separate game type for duel weapons, you could allow players to use melee weapons of their own choice. Just like you can specify what spray paint you want when configuring the ChaosUT mutator, you could allow the players to choose from a list of Duel weapons. Now… instead of utilising special buttons (controlling a player in duel sounds tough, but I have never done it, ChaosUT2 v.2 would not work on my system. I think I needed to install the Epic Bonus pack to make it run) for the control of these melee weapons, you could do one of two things:

Primary fire: Attack. Like the Bastard sword, the melee weapon could automatically attack in different methods.

Alternate fire: Block/Defend. Again, like the Bastard sword or like Eidos' Thief.


Primary fire: Attack one. Varies depending on the weapon.

Alternate fire: Attack two. Varies depending on the weapon.
Special feature: Auto-block. The player automatically blocks (or at least tries to) incoming projectiles using his/her melee weapon. Just like in Jedi Knights 2.

And, as you probably already know, the heavier weapons move slower but do more damage. You could even display the statistics of each weapon when it is being chosen.
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lord_kungai,

we have something like that. In all Chaos games you can pick your melee weapon from a list. For all melees when you hit the primary fire it swings (they style and type of swing differs based on many factors with movement being one of them). Alt fire moves the weapon into a blocking postion... So we are close to what you wanted..
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jb wrote:In all Chaos games you can pick your melee weapon from a list.
But does it work for non chaos maps and gametypes? I badly want to use a Katana in CTF-Face3.
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lord_kungai wrote:But does it work for non chaos maps and gametypes? I badly want to use a Katana in CTF-Face3.
It does work for non chaos maps.
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lord_kungai wrote:But does it work for non chaos maps and gametypes? I badly want to use a Katana in CTF-Face3.
With Chaos CTF you can do just that :)
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neolith wrote:It does work for non chaos maps.
*Jumps around room. Does a couple of cartwheels, backflips, etc. while yelling "Yaaaaaaaahhhhhooooooo.com"*

Nice!!!
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Ooookayy then! I think it be time to adjust your medication....

OTOH, we here at Az&Az would like to profess our anticipation of our forthcoming ability to clothesline people on hoverboards using a katana or Templar blade: (jumpy)
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Yaaaahh!!!

*Lord Kungai also cleaves Azreal in two with a Katana (in Face3?)*

Hey! That was fun!
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Not again! 8O We are beginning to feel like [insert appropriate (human)pop culture reference] here.
Now that there are three of us... :borg:
*Az1 &Az2 hold lord_kungai down while Az3 injects a large dose of nicotine analogue and barbituates*
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(3 Azs? I said there that maybe I could carve Azrael in CTF-FacingWorlds3. It really doesn't matter though because...)

*Just before Lord Kungai Falls asleep, he uses the adreneline combo, BOOSTER and flushes his body of any narcortics and sedatives. then he picks up a flak cannon...*

Aaiiiieeeee!!!

*...and shreds the three Azs into millions of pieces. Then he gets into a leviathan and deploys it and, well you can imagine.* :twisted:
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Post by lord_kungai »

A few more ideas:

I don't know your list of melee weapons but could you add these...
>Sickle
>Grim reaper's...well...reaper
>A saucepan :twisted:
>A plow
>An electric drill
>A pneumatic drill
>Pieces of other players? (burn)

could you also make a player able to use two different or same melee weapons simultaneously? Eg: for all you RA lovers out there how about a hammer and a sickle?

And not just for melee weapons, how about for other small weapons such as the biorifle (glob) , the link gun (plasma) , the shock rifle (core) , the grenade launcher and other 'small' weapons.
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NO!!! Now that you've vaporized the three Az's, his individual atoms will multiply to create BILLIONS OF AZRAELS! Only 750 million tons of anti-matter can possibly destroy him now!

The biorifle, link gun, and shock rifle are not "small weapons"! They are every bit as useful and deadly as the others, only they suit more specific roles.

And about the Chaos CTF melee thing, how about using the flag to fight with? Instead of holding the flag on your back, you must put away your weapons and be forced to defeat your enemies using the flag!

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Kaboodles_The_Assassin wrote: And about the Chaos CTF melee thing, how about using the flag to fight with? Instead of holding the flag on your back, you must put away your weapons and be forced to defeat your enemies using the flag!

"azrael was speared by lord_kungai with his own flag."
this ones been tossed around alot , in fact , I think the original placeholder for the Melee weapons was the flag. I'm not sure what the final call on it was.
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Kaboodles_The_Assassin wrote:NO!!! Now that you've vaporized the three Az's, his individual atoms will multiply to create BILLIONS OF AZRAELS! Only 750 million tons of anti-matter can possibly destroy him now!
Why does this remind me of Army of Darkness and the mini-Ash's?
And about the Chaos CTF melee thing, how about using the flag to fight with? Instead of holding the flag on your back, you must put away your weapons and be forced to defeat your enemies using the flag!
It's been considered, and was even possible earlier in development due to a bug, but it was decided against and will not be appearing in Chaos CTF.
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