ok I was serfing around some NORMAL ut servers and I came across this VCTF server...and it had chaos weps on it O_O
and they did not call them chaos weps the called um
"WGS C.U.T.T.E.R"
"WGS VORTEX....forgot the rest of the name"
I did not know if they had ur guys permission to do that so u might want to check it out
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69.56.197.186:7777
chaos ripped O_O wtf
http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread. ... ost1232268
Apparently they took only the CUTTER and the Vortex.
At least they don't say that it's theirs.
Apparently they took only the CUTTER and the Vortex.
At least they don't say that it's theirs.
good catch Be_gone
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Shadowstar
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Shall we dispatch the Chaos Gestapo? heh... 
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My Sounds Release Thread:
http://forums.chaoticdreams.org/viewtop ... 7&start=45
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing
My Sounds Release Thread:
http://forums.chaoticdreams.org/viewtop ... 7&start=45
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We did work with a team to let them use the CUTTER (I dont know which one yet and have no access to my email so I can not check yet). What we did with them and may do again is allow another team use our model, but we change the skin. The idea is we place "Made by ChaosUT Inc" or something like that on the skin so it fits well into the model, but yet informs people who really made the content. That way we help out others but yet still keep our name.....
Jb
Just a little Clarity
I have been running Unreal servers since UT99 came out, and I have always said the choas team makes the best weps and thats why you will always see one or two on my server.
Hell, Epic should be hiring these guys to work the next project they are diving into. The servers I run are all about custom content and I really dislike the vanilla versions after about 2 weeks of the game being out.
The two chaos weps on my server are the Vortex and the Cutter. I never take credit for them and I never ever release them on the net. Infact I give you guys proper props in my forum... always have. When people email me asking me for the weps I alway email the link to your site and explain to them where I got them.
When you switch to the weps in game, I still let people know it's a chaos wep... WGS Chaos Gravity Vortex... WGS CE CUTTER. I had to put the CE for Chaos Evolution in the cutter because WGS Chaos CUTTER took up a lot of space on the screen hehehee. I just add in the WGS so people wil not take the weps off my server and put them on theirs and claim ownership... kind of helps deter that.
The reason why I pulled them out of your mod is that if peopel have to DL 120+ megs from a server to play, there would be no traffic because after like 30 megs they might ahhh screw this.
If anything this is free advertising for your mod and I have pointed countless people to your site and never say anything but praise about your work.
As far as changing the code of your weapons I may alter a few things here and there but nothing major. I made the vortex have a slightly bigger radius and more gravity than you had, and it runs for about 2 seconds longer... the cutter I bumped up the damage and made the blades not ricochet as much and fade out quicker to help ppls FPS.
You will also notice there are a few maps on my server to with a WGS in the name but they are all maps I added turrets and vehicles to that used to just be regular CTF maps... I did ask the authors, and yes I should have asked you guys. I appologize.
If the chaos team didn't make such kick ass stuff my server would probably not be up.
Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers:)
Hell, Epic should be hiring these guys to work the next project they are diving into. The servers I run are all about custom content and I really dislike the vanilla versions after about 2 weeks of the game being out.
The two chaos weps on my server are the Vortex and the Cutter. I never take credit for them and I never ever release them on the net. Infact I give you guys proper props in my forum... always have. When people email me asking me for the weps I alway email the link to your site and explain to them where I got them.
When you switch to the weps in game, I still let people know it's a chaos wep... WGS Chaos Gravity Vortex... WGS CE CUTTER. I had to put the CE for Chaos Evolution in the cutter because WGS Chaos CUTTER took up a lot of space on the screen hehehee. I just add in the WGS so people wil not take the weps off my server and put them on theirs and claim ownership... kind of helps deter that.
The reason why I pulled them out of your mod is that if peopel have to DL 120+ megs from a server to play, there would be no traffic because after like 30 megs they might ahhh screw this.
If anything this is free advertising for your mod and I have pointed countless people to your site and never say anything but praise about your work.
As far as changing the code of your weapons I may alter a few things here and there but nothing major. I made the vortex have a slightly bigger radius and more gravity than you had, and it runs for about 2 seconds longer... the cutter I bumped up the damage and made the blades not ricochet as much and fade out quicker to help ppls FPS.
You will also notice there are a few maps on my server to with a WGS in the name but they are all maps I added turrets and vehicles to that used to just be regular CTF maps... I did ask the authors, and yes I should have asked you guys. I appologize.
If the chaos team didn't make such kick ass stuff my server would probably not be up.
Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers:)
Sir, we are grateful that you like the mod, but that does not give you 'the right' to do with it as you please.
You do not in fact have permission to do what you have done, and we are in fact officially asking you here and now to remove any altered Chaos weapons from your server and site, etc.
The reason this didn't pop up higher on the radar screen at first, was because the assumption was made that you were simply doing the same thing as other 'weapon-switching' mutators out there, and taking a couple of our weapons out of our mod and using them on your server. (some of the Chaos Team are OK with that, and some not, but we know they are out there, and we can't possibly stop them all anyway...so, we accept them)
But you have gone way beyond that.
What you have done, w/o asking BTW, is taken our work, altered it, and put your "WGS" name on it. This is NOT acceptable. We made the weapon, not WGS, we'll thank you to not take such credit.
IF you are interested in doing the 'right' thing, it would be not to alter our weapons, and not to put your name on them. "WGS" in front of anything of ours is not acceptable, and you should realize that anyway.
There are already weapon switching mutator available to take our mod apart, w/o altering our weapons, and w/o putting their name on our weapons. We are asking you to do the same.
The very least you can do in this case, at this time, is talk to us about it with mutual respect. We aren't about to come and spam your forums, or try to have your server shut down, or any kind of crap like that. We are simply asking that if you like our work, please respect our wishes, and use those weapons in a way that we too can support.
Thank you.
You do not in fact have permission to do what you have done, and we are in fact officially asking you here and now to remove any altered Chaos weapons from your server and site, etc.
The reason this didn't pop up higher on the radar screen at first, was because the assumption was made that you were simply doing the same thing as other 'weapon-switching' mutators out there, and taking a couple of our weapons out of our mod and using them on your server. (some of the Chaos Team are OK with that, and some not, but we know they are out there, and we can't possibly stop them all anyway...so, we accept them)
But you have gone way beyond that.
What you have done, w/o asking BTW, is taken our work, altered it, and put your "WGS" name on it. This is NOT acceptable. We made the weapon, not WGS, we'll thank you to not take such credit.
IF you are interested in doing the 'right' thing, it would be not to alter our weapons, and not to put your name on them. "WGS" in front of anything of ours is not acceptable, and you should realize that anyway.
There are already weapon switching mutator available to take our mod apart, w/o altering our weapons, and w/o putting their name on our weapons. We are asking you to do the same.
The very least you can do in this case, at this time, is talk to us about it with mutual respect. We aren't about to come and spam your forums, or try to have your server shut down, or any kind of crap like that. We are simply asking that if you like our work, please respect our wishes, and use those weapons in a way that we too can support.
Thank you.
weapon switching mutators are great, but in order for a person to play, the client still has to DL your whole mod from the redirect (if they have that luxury) or (slow as hell) direct from the server itself. If I am using say just the vortex and the cutter, It's not logical for these clients to have to DL hundreds of megs to play the game just for these two weps. If that's how you are suggesting I proceed I'll just have to take them off and respect your wishes. I refuse to subject clients to hundred meg DL's, that's just plain out retarded.
If you allow me to use the weps and pull them out as stand alones leaving the code and name intact that I can do.
Or maybe if you have them as stand alone weps you could send them to me and I'll use those.
Just let me know what you want and I'll help make it happen.
If you allow me to use the weps and pull them out as stand alones leaving the code and name intact that I can do.
Or maybe if you have them as stand alone weps you could send them to me and I'll use those.
Just let me know what you want and I'll help make it happen.
Ok, thanks for the discussion.
What we do with our mod is our choice however, and it's basically up to decent folks across the net to respect them, or not. After all, it's impossible for us to "police" the entire internet anyway, nor would we want to spend our time that way.
Again, that was our choice to make. And now it's up to you to respect our wishes, or not.
We do not in any case want you to alter our weapons. In code or in graphics, or in name.
We do not want to have our weapons as standalone items. Yes, we want for your clients to have ALL of Chaos, in order to play parts of Chaos.
There are options in the GUI, and even more in the INI, to turn off various parts of Chaos to suit varying tastes.
There are not standalone weapon muts, anywhere on our site, or in our readme, or manual.
I may have missed something I should have said here, please feel free to ask what I may not have explained.
Nobody is questioning what you can do. But sometimes you are given choices in life, in how to interact with folks, and you have a choice now.cvroy wrote:I never took credit for your weapons ever, and if I really want to I can put the WGS in front of anything I want on my server...
Retarded? Well, I'm sorry you see it that way. (Edit: what I mean is...we're not forcing anyone to download anything. IF in fact you only like one thing out of a 2hundred meg mod, than yeah, I'd suggest you not download it)weapon switching mutators are great, but in order for a person to play, the client still has to DL your whole mod from the redirect (if they have that luxury) or (slow as hell) direct from the server itself. If I am using say just the vortex and the cutter, It's not logical for these client to have to DL hundreds of megs to play the game just for these two weps. If that's how you are suggesting I proceed I'll just have to take them off and respect your wishes. I refuse to subject clients to hundred meg DL's, that's just plain out retarded.
What we do with our mod is our choice however, and it's basically up to decent folks across the net to respect them, or not. After all, it's impossible for us to "police" the entire internet anyway, nor would we want to spend our time that way.
We made the choice not to release each of our weapons as a standalone weapon...long ago by the way. And we made the choice to make 'Chaos', rather than a web site that just lists a whole bunch of seperate items, that you can just pick and choose from as you wish.If you allow me to use the weps and pull them out as stand alones.... leaving the code and name intact that I can do.
Or maybe if you have them as stand alone weps you could send them to me and I'll use those.
Again, that was our choice to make. And now it's up to you to respect our wishes, or not.
That's the sum total of what we are going to do here, just ask you to resepect our wishes.Just let me know what you want and I'll help make it happen.
We do not in any case want you to alter our weapons. In code or in graphics, or in name.
We do not want to have our weapons as standalone items. Yes, we want for your clients to have ALL of Chaos, in order to play parts of Chaos.
There are options in the GUI, and even more in the INI, to turn off various parts of Chaos to suit varying tastes.
There are not standalone weapon muts, anywhere on our site, or in our readme, or manual.
I may have missed something I should have said here, please feel free to ask what I may not have explained.