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Clarification

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:12 am
by Rimshot
I think I need to clarify this a little...

I still see that Quake 1 still has MODs made for it and I hope that someday somebody takes up the challenge of doing the Chaos Arena code from scratch.

I know it is dead right now, but there is a lot of stuff already completed and it wouldn't take any more than an experienced coder to get it back pretty quick.

If I were staying here and not deploying to war in a few days I would prolly try to recruit somebody myself "I just don't have the time".

What I really was talking about is making just the shell of a page ( maybe even adding one ) to have a place to post news, advertisements and "help wanted posts" on future ideas and Game Platforms that Chaos might eventually be modded for...

Not a redirect ( which looks pretty cool ) but a main "Everything Chaos Page" just like Planetquake has, to post news about all things chaos related.

I know at this time that the Unreal Tourney MOD is the only active project happening right now, but I hope that by the time I come back we can build a team for Doom 3 and/or Quake 4.

I saw what happened when the GOTY and also way back when Quake 2 Chaos Mod took off, our community grew very quickly and I would like something to showcase not only UT but the Quake 2 and any future MODs and platforms too...

Also Mass left the shell from the Quake 3 ChaosArena Page up for me, just in case... I'm not trying to hang on to a dead MOD, just leaving it in place to keep the options open.

"You never Know"

What I was talking about is kind of tying the main pages together just as a News Page, where any posts made on any of our pages would show up there. And seeing if anybody would be interested in doing a newsletter.

That would be a good place to leak info, screenies, and recruit, without people having to go through the forums all the time. I know you also want people active in the forums but remember that most don't have access to the whole lower half of the forums.

Maybe the reason that there is some confusion is that the UT MOD is the only active one right now and people are thinking that it would be redundant to do this as it is already being done on the one active sight, I am just trying to think ahead a little to the next couple Game platforms.

And maybe it is too soon, but I plan on really hitting the MOD community to recruit Modders when I get back, to get a jump on Quake 4 and Doom 3 as soon as possible. I have to have a place to post news on future Chaos platforms and advertise for team members other than the forums, and since it isn't gonna be for Unreal Tournament it wouldn't be appropriate to advertise it there.

That is all I am talking about...

A Chaos MOD Team main page, not for Quake 2, Quake 3, UT or anything else, but I wanted to make it dual purpose by also tying in the news posts from all future and present Chaos pages so that it is active and a shortcut for ppl just looking for news about Anything Chaos.

The newsletter was just an afterthought as a service to anyone interested.

I have really been active here in some very large Lan's, and in both CPL, and CAL events on the west coast, I go every year to Quakecon and have some good contacts, and I guess this page idea is kind of an extension of that. We ran the regional qualifier for the CPL here for their last winter event in Dallas. And one of the cool things that I saw at all these ( including our event ) was some of the Modders coming out to the events and meeting people.

I have drank Beer with or talked to PappyR ( Planetquake ),a couple guys who run Gamespy, the people who created Punkbuster, and I just wanted to model our site after them.

Planet Quake --- Everything Quake

Chaotic Dreams --- Everything Chaos

It could take the place of the Announcements string of the forums, and all team members could have access to post news tidbits about anything they wanted too. such as new server URL's and status of the Mod etc... Something along those lines.

I know it is probably a little pre-mature but if I've learned nothing else from the ChaosArena situation, I have learned not to wait until the last minute and then throw it together.


"Rimmer steps off his soap box" :D

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 6:32 am
by R.Flagg
Sir, you've got my vote. And you've got my support, in more ways than one. So if this happens, just let me know, (or if I see something, I'll offer) what I can to do help you out.

(well, I guess this is the open session forum, so..., BTW Rimshot, if you've caught news stories of the media overhyping an ignorant vocal minority, please ignore them. It is not how myself and everyone I know feels. Where I come from, we support our troops.

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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:03 am
by -Atom-
Just a bit of news on Chaosarena if anybody is interested. I have started to mod Q3 to make it act a bit like what Q2 chaos is. I have got a simple grapple, homing roockets, grav belt and the heartbeat(!) working. Needs tweaking to be more like Q2 Chaos but the foundation is there. I'll be working on the scanner next.

I'm a professional Powerscript coder at work but have not coded any games before (especially in C). but I think I'm picking it up pretty fast :)

E-mail me if anybody want to know more.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:12 am
by R.Flagg
Mail sent. flaggrules

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:15 am
by R.Flagg
And welcome to the MOO Clan old timer! :D

That's what I wanted to hear...

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:05 pm
by Rimshot
Get with Furrysound if you haven't yet and get everything on the FTP.

Read all the documentation, and see what you can do.

Make multiple back ups of the code :twisted:

And last but not least get the last rlelease working to see what was already done. There was a few very good ideas that I personally would like to see stay. One of them was the alternate fire for the railgun that would shoot through walls, getting weaker with every wall it passed thru.

It would only go through about 3 before dying. Also ask around to some of the old timers on the team who did bug testing for it. ( Not sure who all it was ). and get their input.

All the models to date were on the FTP along with some of my maps ( a couple which were done ). a working entities.def file is also there for the mappers and explains some of the stuff I am talking about.

Last but not least, see if you can get 1-2 more coders to help you out.

If you send me a mail at Rimshot@planetquake.com I will get you in touch with Pappy_R of planetquake to try to send some coders your way to help.

Be quick.... Time is short for me. :D

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:28 pm
by jb
Be quick.... Time is short for me.
Good luck sir. I know your going to do what your trained and I am with you! But still stay safe!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 1:52 pm
by -Atom-
Email received RFlag - replied.

I have spoken to Furrysound and he is getting the Q3 Chaos files together, hopefully I will be able to have a look at this stuff soon.

I'll try to do the other stuff you said Rimshot, think I better read all them C books now.... arrgghh heh 8)

Good luck Rimshot with what your going to do and also thanks RFlag. MooooOooOOoooo :D

What we need

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:05 pm
by Rimshot
Thanks for the support guys, I appreciate it...

Atom; what we really need is a lead programmer to take charge on this project.

You can recruit others by sending a mail to Pappy at planetquake and tell him what you are trying to do, and that Rimshot sent you to him.

He is really cool, and will do what he can to help.

pappy-r@planetquake.com

Another good contact would be Oswald from the Urban Terror MOD team, tell him that Rimshot sent you... The guy from EverLan/Chaos, and that you are looking for anybody he could send your way.

oswald@planetquake.com

Both those guys can send you in the right direction to find coders, modelers, mappers etc...

We just need somebody to take the lead, and I can't right now. I was just waiting for somebody to try to take Lead Programmer.

Good Luck

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:52 pm
by FurrySound
Funny we should talk about a 'news' page... that's what reviving chaoticdreams.org's main goal is, I already have a news script running... will get with the team and see if it looks like a go...

You've got our (my family's) support. Be safe.

Ok, back to the developers forums I head... :)

FurrySound{Moo}

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:27 am
by JeT
Well, I said this in a prevous post, but I guess people overlooked it.

If needed, I could program a php script to grab new news for certain forum threads or sections, and take the newest (or whatever) news from the multiple other Chaos sites.

I love php coding, so if u need a script for the site, just ask me and I can most likely code it.

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Also, are you in need of an easier way to post screenshots? Or you already using a script for that? I made a script awhile back that auto posted the screenshot on the section / page all formatted. All you needed to do was upload the screenshots into a directory you choose.