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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:05 am
by FrozenCow
Why does this reminds me of the Flamer of U4E? :(

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:27 am
by TKATK
( Non tolerated Content was here. Edited by LoQ) :(



Freezer+Flamer+The fan thing=M.U.G

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:33 am
by Shuri
TKATK wrote: (Will not add insults even in Quotes) Edited by LoQ :(
People, a word; can we please keep the insulting of other mods out of here? A lot of people put hard work into every map, mutator and mod out there, and it pains me when people call it 'crappy'. Just a personal dislike.
FrozenCow wrote:Why does this reminds me of the Flamer of U4E? :(
I cannot remember a flamer in U4E, but that is irrelevant tbh. There wasn't any stealing of ideas, and if they had a flamer, then of course this will remind you of it... flamethrowers are generally fairly similar :)
Of course, ours isn't any ordinary flamethrower... this has evolved from the Utility Gun of ChaosUT. TKATK is correct with his lil equation there ;)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:54 am
by jb
Besides there is a flamer in Mr Evil's WOE. And I have seen another mod also have a flamer (atlantis maybe)? The idea of a flame thrower has been around in many games, U2, RtCW, AvP, Halo, ect so in a sence we are all copying them. The idea was to tweak the old ChaosUT UG (Utility Gun). We wanted to have the old UT version have a fame option but it just did not work out in UT.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:40 pm
by LoQtUS
And to add just a bit more, The ChaosUT Utility Gun was the Child of the AirFist from ChaosDM for Q2. So if you look back at our work there is a logical progression.

Now is the part where i make Jb cringe. LOL
There do seem to be alot of similaritys between Chaos and Unreal Forever, But i can assure you that there is no one looking at their work from this camp. All of the ideas we have either come from team members, or Chaos Fans. Walter (Max Smoke) and his boys have said alot of crap about us in the past and continue to bad mouth Us, but Our "Official" stance on the whole thing is to let it roll off our backs. There seems to be alot of bad feelings from their group tward Chaos and the C.D. team and they are verry vocal about it. Ofcourse, this infuriates some of the Chaos Team members that have a little bit of Hotter tempers ( sutch as Myself), and some times in the heat of anger we let things slip. But, Be assured that the Chaotic Dreams Team does not engage in the slamming of other mods and will not tolerate it from others on our forums even if that other mod team is publicly bashing us. Unfortunatly, not all Mod groups are like this, but we feel that it helps promote a positive environment for us to have fun and work in. So, please keep things on the positive side. That old addage holds true here. If you cant say something nice, then dont say anything at all.

(Steps down off of soapbox)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:51 pm
by R.Flagg
I'm gonna live forever, baby remember my name

"For Fame - Push Here" <--Fame Option

"there is a flamer in Mr Evil's WOE"!! <--Line from bad homosexual horror movie (in shocked voice, with lisp)

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:28 pm
by Kaboodles
I have an idea!

Instead of having just a normal air gun blast, turn it into a flaming or freezing belch. I want it so that instead of the air gun simply pushing enemies around, it burns (or freezes) them as well.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:36 pm
by UTIMER
Shuri wrote:
FrozenCow wrote:Why does this reminds me of the Flamer of U4E? :(
I cannot remember a flamer in U4E, but that is irrelevant tbh. There wasn't any stealing of ideas, and if they had a flamer, then of course this will remind you of it... flamethrowers are generally fairly similar :)
Of course, ours isn't any ordinary flamethrower... this has evolved from the Utility Gun of ChaosUT. TKATK is correct with his lil equation there ;)
Im not accusing you of stealling idea's :) im aware that both are not 100% orginal (in U4E).

The reason the current M.U.G. reminds you of it must be because 'our' flamethrower also had 2 modes.... freeze and burn.

Still i think the current mod seems great, and i look forward to seeing the MUG. not really because the flamethrower nor the ice mode (both are also coming back to the U4E mod) but in the 3rd mode i read about (didn't see any screenies of it)

No im not going to call CUT2 idea stealers or something or bash them or something (somehow i feel that is how ppl think about the U4E team here :roll: ). I too know that a lot of ppl work hard on making it like it is now. working hard... trying to make it they way the want it... and it comes together very nicely.

So far, great job!

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:44 pm
by Shuri
UTIMER wrote:Im not accusing you of stealling idea's :) im aware that both are not 100% orginal (in U4E).

The reason the current M.U.G. reminds you of it must be because 'our' flamethrower also had 2 modes.... freeze and burn.

Still i think the current mod seems great, and i look forward to seeing the MUG. not really because the flamethrower nor the ice mode (both are also coming back to the U4E mod) but in the 3rd mode i read about (didn't see any screenies of it)

No im not going to call CUT2 idea stealers or something or bash them or something (somehow i feel that is how ppl think about the U4E team here :roll: ). I too know that a lot of ppl work hard on making it like it is now. working hard... trying to make it they way the want it... and it comes together very nicely.

So far, great job!
Thanks :)

The third mode of the MUG is the airblast, which can be used to push enemies, ammo, health etc around the map - and currently can even be used to jump further.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:08 pm
by TKATK
[quote="Shuri"][quote="TKATK"]People, a word; can we please keep the insulting of other mods out of here? A lot of people put hard work into every map, mutator and mod out there, and it pains me when people call it 'crappy'. Just a personal dislike.
quote]

well,i called it crappy becouse it had too low damage and no special effect,didnt make a reason to pick it up,im not trying to be a[quote="FrozenCow"]Flamer quote]

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:05 pm
by jb
UTIMER,

thanks for the kind words. I have always admired you work and what the rest of the U4E team has been able to pull off in making your mod. Congrads and best of luck!

Whoa

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:54 am
by WH00T
Whoa, it's like an instant rock concert... just add necris skins... have you considered having little "chunks" of the napalm effect shooting out at random intervals? just a suggestion. oh, and by the way this looks SO much better than the excessive flamthrower. And don't group Chaos with U4E. (Non tolerated Content Was Here. Removed By LoQ) Chaos is not just new weapons, but new game modes, the grappler, low-grav belts, armor shards, jump boots, and the damn best weapon switching system on the market. not to mention all the chaos weapons are way cooler and better made, even if there aren't as many of them. So there. And don't think I'm flaming U4E. It can be fun. I play it myself sometimes. I'm just saying that it could never hold it's own against a high-quality thouroughly developed mod such as Chaos. Anyway... back to the present... have you considered for the freeze effect holding the player in place but letting him fire in whatever direction he was aiming when he was frozen? Just a suggestion. here's some more suggestions for the death by mug syndrome:
___ couldn't take the heat.
___ was frozen in his tracks. Literally.
___ gave ___ a little time to chill.
___ overdosed on his chill pill.
___ shoulda listened when ___ told him his face would freeze like that if he kept making it.
___ got heartburn.

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:06 am
by Isotope
___ gave ___ a lesson in combustibles...

Re: Whoa

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:58 am
by neolith
WH00T wrote:And don't think I'm flaming U4E.
Well, your post looks like that's exactly what you're doing...

Guys, please listen to what Shuri and LoQtUS said - stop bashing other peoples' mods here!

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:58 am
by LoQtUS
UTIMER,
Thank you for the kind words. I do believe that this is a first. The first U4E Team member to post on our forums. Welcome, and please feel free to hang out and chat with us. :)