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KRoZ
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Post by KRoZ »

Kaboodles_The_Assassin wrote:Can you make the characters hold each weapon weapon a different way? It just doesn't seem right to have them hold each weapon the exact same way.

Also, fighting with your back completely straight and your legs together doesn't look natural either. Is there anyway to change that, or is that just too much animation work?
They don't ALL hold them the same way. The Gen Mo'kai hold a lot of the weapons in that forward pointing "I'mma stab you good" way like they do with the Bastard sword. Like they're gonna lance someone.
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Post by KRoZ »

Here I am again.

Anyway, for a weapon idea of polearm fashion for use in gunfights as a shield gun replacement ala TKATK's suggestion, I got a sudden random idea that prolly sucks but I'll go ahead and post anyway.

It's a sort of pneumatic umbrella spear thing. Like a spear with a large head. Primary fire would be a stabbing motion of whatever sort, but also enable (if at all remotely possible) a sort of skewering action. I know the grapple can cling to walls and whatnot, but I have no idea about whether or not weapons would allow similar effects. But anyway, stab a wall, you stick. Falling, stab a wall, you stop. Let go, fall more, stop again, repeat ad nauseum or till you reach the ground. The idea here I'm REALLY not sure of would be the ability to skewer players and hold them pretty much in place. Which can be a bad thing given it means they have whatever weapon they had and are now pinned next to you, and here your spear is inside of them, but that's kinda where the alt fire comes in.

The alt fire would be the umbrella type thingie. Like primary fire it would remain extended as long as you hold the fire button, but in this case, the spear head would expand and metal fins would fill in the space to form an umbrella shield in front of you, limiting visibility, but putting up a defense. Pressing alt fire while someone is skewered would do lots and lots of damage, and quite possibly gib the poor bastard. Maybe have the damage dependant on how close the target is to the skewerer. Either way, they aren't skewered anymore.

Dispite being a melee weapon however, it would have ammo like the shield gun. However, it would not be depleted by attacking or opening the fins. It would be depleted by skewering walls, and blocking attacks with the fins. At spawn there would be a set amount of ammo, probably 100, that would reflect the durability of the spear. As it's shot or you stab into peices of rock and metal, it gets beaten up till it eventually breaks and you have no spear anymore, unless of course you pick one up off a dead guy who was using the spear and dropped it and it would have the durability he had and yadda yadda yadda.

If you wanted to make the weapon exceptionally complicated, like all people who suggest weapons without knowing a damned thing about what they're talking about do, you could say the various fins on the shield are destroyed as the weapon takes damage, reducing the chance to block attacks and doing less damage in the stab-umbrella fashion. Snapping away much like the scorpions fancy harvesting blades do when you hit something you shouldn't have. For the record, holding primary fire so the spear is extended would not allow you to just run around till you touch something and skewer it. I think having to time the pressing of fire would make things a bit more sporting and less "impact hammer and shield gun touch something and it dies"ish.

I think that's it.... Yeah. I'm done talking too much.
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d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4
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modern weapons

Post by d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 »

I think that some more modern, slicy-slicy weapons should be added. First thing, chainsaw. Hands-down, we need a chainsaw!! Also, for people more like me, a Circular saw or some sort of blow-torch :twisted: yes.......just think about how many weapons you have seen in your parent's gardening shed....hoes, hose (not a typo), shovels, and those nasty, hand-operated rotor-tillers. Finally, for a melee-redeemer sort of weapon, one of those EDITED rotary push mowers.

http://www.composters.com/gr/gs_1414-16.jpg
Rotary Lawnmower

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Re: modern weapons

Post by be_gone77 »

d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 wrote:I think that some more modern, slicy-slicy weapons should be added. First thing, chainsaw. Hands-down, we need a chainsaw!! Also, for people more like me, a Circular saw or some sort of blow-torch :twisted: yes.......just think about how many weapons you have seen in your parent's gardening shed....hoes, hose (not a typo), shovels, and those nasty, hand-operated rotor-tillers. Finally, for a melee-redeemer sort of weapon, one of those SUPER FUCKIN OLD rotary push mowers.

http://www.composters.com/gr/gs_1414-16.jpg
Rotary Lawnmower
"a Circular saw or some sort of blow-torch"


there is a flame thrower in the game already o_O
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Post by Kyllian »

Hmm... a circular saw like the ones road crews use to chop up the asphalt.
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Post by Mætlöaff »

But then people will accuse you of ripping off the hellsaw from U4E.
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Post by Zachariah »

for the record a chainsaw has been and still is the most asked for featurein forum history . . .
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Post by d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 »

I know there is a flamethrower, but I mean more like a soldering torch. It's kind of like a jet-lighter (ya know, those ones with a straight blue flame).

And yes, I am talking about those saws they use to cut up asphalt, only hand operated. And it doesnt ripoff the Hellsaw because it's round, and the hellsaw is pink.

Another weapon that would be cool would be a Manrikigusari.

http://bujinkan_ca.tripod.com/imagenes/armas/manrikigusari.gif
Manrikigusari

It's used to grapple and choke people, or to trap (and break) limbs.

Hey, CUT2 team, you should release a seperate download mutator with ONLY duel mode and the melee weaps. My 56k disagrees with the 2XX MB download.
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Post by Mick »

d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 wrote:Another weapon that would be cool would be a Manrikigusari.

http://bujinkan_ca.tripod.com/imagenes/armas/manrikigusari.gif
Manrikigusari
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Post by neolith »

d3u5_3x_m4ch1n4 wrote:Another weapon that would be cool would be a Manrikigusari.

http://bujinkan_ca.tripod.com/imagenes/armas/manrikigusari.gif
Manrikigusari
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