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melee third person?
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:01 pm
by Reptrix
for chaosut2 ut2k4
Will melee automaticly switch to third person, similar like in jedi knight 2
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:18 pm
by Shuri
Yes, it does.
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:22 pm
by Kaboodles
Can you provide an option to make the melee mode first person?
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:25 pm
by jeditobe1
Not really...
When you are in first person your player is made invisible to you, that way the front of your face and your gun dont show up in your view. The gun that appears in your view is actually a seperate picture added on top and sync'd with the bullets that come out of the real gun.
Why does that matter? Because we would have to create animations in first person that synch up or dont (like the flips some characters do when side jumping dont effect your view). And that would take MONTHS as i hear, and still would not work that well.
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:17 pm
by Reptrix
Cool!
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:11 pm
by jb
I tired a way to "spoof" it to give you a quais 1st mode. What I did is was instead of the camera view behind the player, I moved the camera to where your "eyes" would be and spaced it a few units beyond that. It worked well for a few animations, was ok for some, and you have horrific issues with others (maily you could clip and see inside your body). So far we dont have a good answer for 1st melee.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 4:08 pm
by Kaboodles
Man, I really wanted to see my own feet this time...

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:45 pm
by Shuri
Kaboodles_The_Assassin wrote:Man, I really wanted to see my own feet this time...

That's something I really miss in FP games. It's a small thing that doesn't affect gameplay, but when done it really enhances the immersion in the game; Project Eden and Tribes 2 were very cool for this (IIRC you could see your body in both, but I might be mistaken, a while since I played either).
Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 6:11 pm
by R.Flagg
Having a foot that matched my character when I kicked someone would be great.
Though I certainly miss the hands a lot more than I think about the foot. Kinda sucks to have lost the hands. Stuff like the aimations Spa had made for the hands changing your crossbow ammo back in UT99. Now that was nice stuff.
Kaboodles wrote:Can you provide an option to make the melee mode first person?

Obviously the guys have done a nice job with our melee system, but I'm like you...., I prefer 1st person. I too would be very happy if somehow in the future it was possible to offer both.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:25 pm
by neolith
Shuri wrote:That's something I really miss in FP games. It's a small thing that doesn't affect gameplay, but when done it really enhances the immersion in the game; Project Eden and Tribes 2 were very cool for this (IIRC you could see your body in both, but I might be mistaken, a while since I played either).
Wasn't
Project Eden the game with dinosaurs where you played a chick and could see your own boobies when loking down?
Anyways, I too like every game where I can see my feet.
R.Flagg wrote:Having a foot that matched my character when I kicked someone would be great.
Though I certainly miss the hands a lot more than I think about the foot. Kinda sucks to have lost the hands. Stuff like the aimations Spa had made for the hands changing your crossbow ammo back in UT99. Now that was nice stuff.
The foot would be great.
And for the hands - I miss them from a designers point of view, but EPIC decided to remove them due to the species issue, so I go by the "it's their design and I have to work within their limits". As an animator I don't miss them a second, everyone who ever tried to create a realistic animation of a hand grabbing a gun within the limits of Ued bones may join me in my song of joy.

Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:32 pm
by Shuri
neolith wrote:Shuri wrote:That's something I really miss in FP games. It's a small thing that doesn't affect gameplay, but when done it really enhances the immersion in the game; Project Eden and Tribes 2 were very cool for this (IIRC you could see your body in both, but I might be mistaken, a while since I played either).
Wasn't
Project Eden the game with dinosaurs where you played a chick and could see your own boobies when loking down?

Umm... don't think so
It was the game where you had a team of 4 characters, each who had different abilities - a hacker, a robot (immune to hazards), 2 others - and you could switch between them to complete puzzles, and there was a dash of shooting action as well. I never got around to buying the full game though... might one of these days, only £5.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 9:37 pm
by neolith
Shuri wrote:Umm... don't think so

Hmmm... I wonder what the game was called...
It wasn't that good anyways, only the physics were really good for a game that old.
Ok... and I enjoyed looking down...

Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 10:35 am
by Bananasalat
I think it was called tresspaser
or something like that
Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:16 pm
by neolith
Bananasalat wrote:I think it was called tresspaser
Exactly! That's the one!

My brain needs more training...
Thanks Bananasalat!
Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:31 pm
by Zachariah
Yo Bannasalat
Nice avatar
