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construtive crits to neoliths female model

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:22 pm
by Bananasalat
Please dont understand this crits wrong I dont want you to get angry.

I only want to help you to improve your work.
I hope you can improve your model with my crits.

I like your model very much Image but i found something really strange on your model.

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look at this

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If you fix that, your model would be much better.

The head needs a bit improvement but the only crit i can find on it is that the head is a bit too long and she just smiles a bit too much for me.

And trust me I know how hard it is to model heads.
I modeld only one nice head so far. :? Yes I have to practice much. :(
But I have no time or motivation Image

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:28 pm
by Zachariah
and to think I once considered that model a [see signature]

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:46 pm
by LoQtUS
One thing you have to take into consideration that ofcourse you have no way to know is that the model was not designed to fit the Skeliton that it is rigged to. I have Neo's origional max files, and that flaw is not in the max files. Its caused by the Rig and animations. Origional he was going to create its own biped, but then we did the melee system, and he wanted it to be compatable with that.

Just an fyi ;)

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:07 pm
by Bananasalat
ahh ok ...

so it cant be fixed ??

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:43 am
by neolith
Bananasalat wrote:ahh ok ...

so it cant be fixed ??
Well, I don't think that can be done that easily. I would have to rebuild a lot of parts of the mesh.

As LoQ already said - the model was never thought to be forced onto the vanilla rig.
As you can see in the max files, the model itself doesn't have these ugly deformations:
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Notice how very different the shoulders look compared to the ingame shots?
I am going to blame Epic for the problems as their skeletal system doesn't allow for motion inheritance across different rigs. ;)
And as you already know, a custom skeleton was impossible due to melee... :(

And concerning the face problems, well, I'm getting better I think:
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:16 pm
by Bananasalat
OK

Yes the face looks very nice. :o

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:24 pm
by Mad Max RW
Something about the female model's eyes that freak me out. They have this 2D anime look, you know what I mean?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:58 pm
by LoQtUS
Just to give my Man Props, Waite till you see the rest of her. That model is harsh!!!! She scares you and turns you on at the same time LOL

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:50 pm
by TKATK
Mad Max RW wrote:Something about the female model's eyes that freak me out. They have this 2D anime look, you know what I mean?
maybe its becouse theres no skin,white eye's can be considered freaky

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:35 pm
by Mad Max RW
Sorry, I was referring to the first ingame pic at the top of the thread.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:00 am
by neolith
Mad Max RW wrote:Sorry, I was referring to the first ingame pic at the top of the thread.
I think it's because of the proportions of the face - they're not exactly accurate.