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Going the extra mile: CCTF = Greatest VCTF on the Planet

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:51 pm
by R.Flagg
It's nice to believe in what it is you're helping to create. :wink:

With some of the most recent changes (over last few months), ChaosCTF has, IMO, come several steps closer to being the greatest CTF/VCTF game type on the planet. (I might even argue that it is already.)

And this is not 'hired PR guy' BS either. Because even though I'm on the team and work with these guys, I think I tend to be their harshest critic. I do not like to over-hype and under-deliver. But things are in fact looking up. Hell, I'm not sure, but I think I might have even been smiling as I played today.

For example.... there is a new level of player-options flexibility in 4.0 that hasn't been seen since MotherChaos (Chaos for Quake2). Which will benefit all of CUT2, but certainly CCTF as well. And that's only scratching the surface...

In 3.6, my dream-game type (CCTF of course) was not really playable online, at least not with some VCTF maps, due to various issues with players being able to carry two flags at once. Sadly, we admit, it was messy stuff at times.

Just for one example, when a mapper places a man-able turret in a vanilla VCTF map, it is possible to place it so that it only works in vanilla VCTF, and not CCTF. Such as you can see in AbbattoireIsland-ECE and the original version of LonesomeGlen. Which of course is not a problem for most folks out there, who are playing vanilla VCTF. But it was for CCTF. But not any more! In CCTF 4.0, all of those turrets will be powered up and ready to go, and no tweaking is required by the map author (such as Blitz kindly did for us in his SE version of Lonesome).

And we are also now compatible with stock-but-seldom-seen-in-VCTF AS-style remote controlled turrets, and even the space ships (meaning you'll drop the flags if you try to use either of them), such as you'll find in cvroy's remake of Nick's SummerValley.

But that's just good mod making - being compatible with all of vanilla I mean. But this is Chaos, so we didn't stop there.

Chaos (in this case Jb of course, as this was a coding issue) has also put in some fixes for other non-Chaos custom material out there. This is going the extra mile to make the mod great. And I am grateful.

For example, we are now compatible with the custom vehilce factories that Blitz created for some of his excellent VCTF maps. Those factories were used by other authors as well, such as Hobi Wan, who also created some great VCTF maps. So it was in our benefit to be compatible with those popular maps by those talented authors. And now we are. So if you choose to, you can play CCTF 4.0 in any of those maps and have it work just fine.

And then of course there's that new option I posted a not-so-great pic of in my dev journal recently. I like that one a LOT. For some of us out here, it makes VCTF a reasonable and fun game type again. Oh yeah, me love you long time.

Anyway, I like CCTF, and have been bitching/whining/pushing for more development there for what must be over 2 years now (or more). And while we're not quite the PerfectIdealWetPantiesUtopiaCTFAsISeeIt just yet, things are certainly looking up.

So here's a public thanks to Jb and all of Chaotic Dreams for the continued work on CCTF. I still believe in this game type in a big way, and I think that there is an audience for this style of Unreal CTF out there, and/or there will be.

It's truly is a great game type already - and I/we have much more planned for it in the future as well.

Here's to cappin' flags and fraggin' your ass till I'm dead 'n gone. Cheers. (b)

Looks good

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:30 pm
by Finn_bryant
You people don't post about future chaos often, but when you do it really makes an impression, sounds brilliant. All this bug fixing is going to lose bruce his job. :D

Can't wait to play, and im glad you feel happy about those custom factories working, I got the feeling from ealier posts that it was a bit tricky (understatement is the greatest overstatement).

I'm also glad tat you have fixed the bug where peple walk on wings with the flags, although the vanilla servers around me dont have many people doing that (proper british sportsmanship).

Can't wait.

Glad its 4.0, sounds good.

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:41 pm
by jb
I am sorry that we did not get to this sooner. Just there is sooo much work to be done. And there are so many areas of Chaos that could be with more work could become full fledge mods in their own right. Meaning if we wanted to we could soley focus on weapons and make a weapons only mod like others. Or focus on a few good gametypes and make just a gametype mod, or melee mod, a features mod (grapple, kick, ect), ect...

Soooo many areas that we could go..sooo hard to work on them all. Just happy that we got to this area and hopefully we can make it better! I'd like to thank Flag for sticking in there till we could get to this!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:18 am
by lord_kungai
and I think I speak for all fans here whe I say:

*DROOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!*

YESSS!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:21 pm
by Romulus777
lord_kungai wrote:and I think I speak for all fans here whe I say:

*DROOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!*

YESSS!!!
not tim. he would say
tim wrote:I need my claw 2...Here it is hehe Proxies for all
:proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy: :proxy:

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:34 pm
by Tim
Actually, Romulus777, I'm a big fan of claw2, ERDW, claw2, vortex, claw2, turret launcher, and last, but not least, claw2

EDIT: And melee. And claw2.

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:17 pm
by Finn_bryant
Well, wasn't there something else you like?
Oh yeah it was like... er ..... um... claw..... no..... wait, yeah thats it

Claw umm..... 3?..no... 2 yeah

Claw 2!!!!

[offtopic]
My evil clones pwn yours Tim
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:42 pm
by lord_kungai
Ok, I see, you have already gone insane over the impending update...

Oh, well...


NYAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! DIE PEOPLE, DIE!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*Instantly frags all those around him*

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:39 pm
by Romulus777
lord_kungai wrote:Ok, I see, you have already gone insane over the impending update...

Oh, well...


NYAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! DIE PEOPLE, DIE!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*Instantly frags all those around him*
You can't kill me. I'm hiding

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:13 pm
by Shadowstar
/me has already been fragged... by his own proxy.

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:14 am
by Tim
/me does a kami on kungai

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:09 pm
by lord_kungai
Tim wrote:/me does a kami on kungai
*Translocates far away*

*Uses LST on CUT SR to snipe Romulus(776+1)*

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:18 pm
by Tim
lord_kungai wrote:*Translocates far away*

*Uses LST on CUT SR to snipe Romulus(776+1)*
You mean after respawning? :P

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:28 am
by Bruce9950
Finn_Byrant Said
All this bug fixing is going to lose bruce his job. :D
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LOSE HIS JOB :twisted: (Ouch) thats pretty rough Stuff.But im pretty sure some wild thing they are working on will have to have the bug's ironed out.

well with all the time i'll have i'll continue to hang with my friends the proxy'sNow i know why they are so mean they are HORNY look at these pics when i was a proxy looking the other way my buddy was looking at this
OH MY GOD it's PEP
http://www.chaoticdreams.org/ce/bstef/Shot00070.jpg
http://www.chaoticdreams.org/ce/bstef/Shot00018.jpg

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:24 am
by Zachariah
Gasp! interesting to note that a pic of me takes precedence over a pantyshot. . .


hmmmm.