Chaotic Dreams

Can the CUT bike weapon be changed please...?

I know this a weird request from out of the blue but whenever I use the VehicleStuff Mutator (Which rock in conjunction with CUT) the CUT bike and the Cicada mess up. This is because the VehicleStuff Mutator accepts only the primary driver weapon and fires.

However, I'm not bothered by the Cicada (I use only the HaloBanshee) but I wanna play wwith the CUT Bike! So can you guys please combine the bike dual weapons into one weapon? Maybe a front mounted gattling turret? Such that the Bike can be controlled like a scorpion: Keyboard is wheels and mouse is for weapon.

CUT keeps rocking!!!

Short answer - no.

Long answer - I'm not sure I even understand your problem, but I highly recommend turning OFF the 'mouse steer' option.

Perhaps that alone takes care of your issue?

R.Flagg wrote:Short answer - no.

Long answer - I'm not sure I even understand your problem, but I highly recommend turning OFF the 'mouse steer' option.

Perhaps that alone takes care of your issue?

Here's the thing:

1) Mouse steering of CUT bike is fine except for reversing. But that's not the main issue here

2) CUT Bike and Cicada have similar weapons. IE: Both of them have DUAL FIRING missiles. When the VEHICLESTUFF mutator is used in onjunction with either the Cicada or the CUT Bike, there is a problem. Only one of these driver weapons fires.

SO

Is it possible to change the CUT Bike weapon such that it registers as only a single driver-contolled weapon?

A follow up suggestion is:

Make the bike similar to the scorpion by having the mouse control the weapon turret while having the keys control the bike ovement, instead of having a manta-like spinal mount as it is now.

Thanks...

lord_kungai wrote:Here's the thing:

1) Mouse steering of CUT bike is fine except for reversing. But that's not the main issue here

2) CUT Bike and Cicada have similar weapons. IE: Both of them have DUAL FIRING missiles. When the VEHICLESTUFF mutator is used in onjunction with either the Cicada or the CUT Bike, there is a problem. Only one of these driver weapons fires.

1) Well, I guess we have different definitions of "fine" then.

2) Interesting. So only one rocket fires? The other does nothing? Weird. Now, speaking only for myself here, I never recommend we spend time trying to be compatible with a weapon/vehicle 'swapping' type thingy. But most especially this late in the game, so to speak. We have but one more planned release for UT2004, and then it's on to whatever the future brings.

But I'm only one person, if the other guys wanna pursue this, so be it. We would just have to start looking for whatever side-effects (bugs) it introduces into our mod.

Make the bike similar to the scorpion by having the mouse control the weapon turret while having the keys control the bike ovement, instead of having a manta-like spinal mount as it is now.

Well, on this we actually agree. This was brought up during development of the Bike, but for various reasons it was not the path that was chosen. IIRC, I believe there were issues with getting both rocket launchers to behave correctly in unison.

Chances are that whatever you're seeing now will be unchanged from our end.

After saying all that though..., given that it's also happening with the Cicada, I think the wisest approach here is to speak with the person(s) behind the swapping tool you are using.

R.Flagg wrote:

lord_kungai wrote:Here's the thing:

1) Mouse steering of CUT bike is fine except for reversing. But that's not the main issue here

2) CUT Bike and Cicada have similar weapons. IE: Both of them have DUAL FIRING missiles. When the VEHICLESTUFF mutator is used in onjunction with either the Cicada or the CUT Bike, there is a problem. Only one of these driver weapons fires.

1) Well, I guess we have different definitions of "fine" then.

I've never had a major problem witht the Mouse steering, myself...

R.Flagg wrote:After saying all that though..., given that it's also happening with the Cicada, I think the wisest approach here is to speak with the person(s) behind the swapping tool you are using.

Already did, but since I figured that I wouldn't be playing with the Cicada (I replace the cicada and the raptor with the HaloBanshee using the AllVehicleArena mutator, but that's another story) so I wanted to see i only the CUT Bike could be modified as to be compatible with the VehicleStuff mutator.

Thanks!

lord_kungai wrote:... so I wanted to see i only the CUT Bike could be modified as to be compatible with the VehicleStuff mutator.

I hear ya. But in cases like this it's up to the 'tool' author to be compatible with the vanilla game 1st, and then also the mods he wishes to 'tool' with.

Good luck!