Chaotic Dreams

Well before I begin, I have played Chaos before, both for UT99 and UT2k4, in fact, I have played PR3.75, before. But now, whenever I run Chaos, it crashes shortly after starting (on the main menu). I flipped through the log-file myself and didn't find anything that screamed 'fix me'. So I don't know, but here's the log file, after a complete reinstall (first run after said reinstall):

Log: Log file open, 07/19/07 14:33:14
Init: Name subsystem initialized
Init: Detected: Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
Init: Version: 3369 (128.29)
Init: Compiled: Nov 23 2005 16:23:34
Init: Command line: -MainMenuClass=ChaosGames.ChaosGUI_MainMenu -mod=ChaosUT2 -newwindow
Log: Cmd= Start=LocalMap Value=ChaosNoIntro.ut2
Log: Cmd=+ Start=CacheRecordPath Value=../ChaosUT2/System/*.ucl
Log: Cmd=+ Start=MusicPath Value=../ChaosUT2/Music
Log: Cmd=+ Start=Paths Value=../ChaosUT2/Animations/*.ukx
Log: Cmd=+ Start=Paths Value=../ChaosUT2/Maps/*.ut2
Log: Cmd=+ Start=Paths Value=../ChaosUT2/Sounds/*.uax
Log: Cmd=+ Start=Paths Value=../ChaosUT2/StaticMeshes/*.usx
Log: Cmd=+ Start=Paths Value=../ChaosUT2/System/*.u
Log: Cmd=+ Start=Paths Value=../ChaosUT2/Textures/*.utx
Log: Cmd=+ Start=Paths Value=../System/*.upl
Log: Cmd= Start=Console Value=ChaosGames.ChaosConsole
Log: Cmd= Start=GUIController Value=ChaosGames.ChaosGUI_UT2K4GUIController
Log: Cmd=+ Start=EditPackages Value=ChaosGames
Log: Cmd=+ Start=EditPackages Value=ChaosUT
Log: Cmd=- Start=Applications[0] Value=xWebAdmin.UTServerAdmin
Log: Cmd=+ Start=Applications[0] Value=ChaosGames.ChaosUT_UTServerAdmin
Log: Cmd=+ Start=ServerPackages Value=ChaosGames
Log: Cmd=+ Start=ServerPackages Value=ChaosUT
Log: Cmd=+ Start=MainMenuClass Value=ChaosGames.ChaosGUI_MainMenu
Log: Cmd=+ Start=ConnectingMenuClass Value=ChaosGames.ChaosGUI_UT2K4ServerLoading
Log: Cmd=- Start=VotingHandlerType Value=xVoting.xVotingHandler
Log: Cmd=+ Start=VotingHandlerType Value=ChaosGames.ChaosUT_xVotingHandler
Log: Cmd= Start=ServerName Value=A ChaosUT2 Server
Log: Cmd= Start=ShortName Value=CUT2 Server
Log: Cmd= Start=B Value=mutate UseBelt
Log: Cmd= Start=G Value=mutate Kick
Log: Cmd= Start=H Value=mutate HookUp
Log: Cmd= Start=LeftBracket Value=mutate Spraypaint
Log: Cmd= Start=X Value=ChaosWeaponOption
Log: Cmd= Start=Y Value=dropflag
Log: Cmd= Start=Z Value=changeammo
Log: Cmd= Start=Alt Value=mutate Hook
Log: Cmd= Start=bOnlyShowOfficial Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=24
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=15
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=0,G=0,R=255,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.CRL
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=9
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=2
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=255,G=255,R=255,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.Cutter
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=8
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=16
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=0,G=128,R=255,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.cgl
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=7
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=7
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=255,G=170,R=185,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.sniper
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=6
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=14
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=255,G=0,R=0,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.Claw
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=5
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=1
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value="ChaosTex_006.XHairs.cpp"
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=255,G=255,R=255,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=4
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=8
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=255,G=0,R=255,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.xbow
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=3
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=7
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=255,G=170,R=185,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.erdw
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=2
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=3
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=128,G=255,R=255,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.vortex
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=1
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=128,G=255,R=128,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.mug
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Log: Cmd= Start=bUseOldWeaponMesh Value=False
Log: Cmd= Start=ExchangeFireModes Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=Priority Value=0
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrosshair Value=3
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairColor Value=(B=128,G=255,R=255,A=255)
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairTextureName Value=ChaosTex_006.XHairs.turret
Log: Cmd= Start=CustomCrossHairScale Value=1.000000
Init: Character set: Unicode
Init: Base directory: C:\Program Files\UT2004\System\
Init: Ini:..\ChaosUT2\System\ChaosUT2.ini UserIni:..\ChaosUT2\System\ChaosUT2User.ini
Init: Build label: UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2005-11-23_16.22]
Init: Object subsystem initialized
Log: Splash screen filename is '..\ChaosUT2\Help\ChaosUT2Logo.bmp'
Log: ati2dvag.dll/RADEON X300/X550 Series
Log: Game class is 'GameInfo'
Log: Bringing Level Entry.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 2.454000...
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
Log: Browse: ChaosNoIntro.ut2?Name=Skippy?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Xan?team=1?Sex=M?Voice=XGame.RobotVoice
Log: Collecting garbage
Log: Purging garbage
Log: Garbage: objects: 27863->27863; refs: 288088
Log: Game class is 'CinematicGame'
Log: Bringing Level ChaosNoIntro.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 10.155000...
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
Log: ALAudio: Using DirectSound to record audio.
ScriptLog: New Player Skippy id=54b578610ee33e758af14487357be028
Log: Opened viewport
Log: Enter SetRes: 1024x768 Fullscreen 1
Log: Using back-buffer format 22(32-bit)
Log: Using depth-buffer format 77(32-bit)
Log: Creating device
Log: xD3DHelper::Init (QuadEmulation)
Log: Startup time: 32.095000 seconds
Log: Precaching: ChaosNoIntro.LevelInfo0
Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes
Log: Allocating 16384 byte dynamic index buffer.
Log: Finished precaching geometry in 0.048 seconds
Log: Finished precaching textures in 0.000 seconds
Debug: ChaosGUI_MainMenu.Opened() Sender:Package.ChaosGUI_MainMenu
Log: URL: Adding default option Name=Skippy
Log: URL: Adding default option Class=Engine.Pawn
Log: URL: Adding default option Character=Xan
Log: URL: Adding default option team=1
Log: URL: Adding default option Voice=XGame.RobotVoice
Log: Browse: Index.ut2?disconnect?Name=Skippy?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Xan?team=1?Voice=XGame.RobotVoice
Log: Failed; returning to Entry
ScriptLog: ChaosGUI_MainMenu NotifyLevelChange PendingConnection:False
Log: GP=FALSE
Log: Spawning new actor for Viewport WindowsViewport
ScriptLog: New Player Skippy id=54b578610ee33e758af14487357be028
Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes
Critical: UD3DRenderDevice::Present
Critical: UGameEngine::Draw
Critical: UWindowsViewport::Repaint
Critical: UWindowsClient::Tick
Critical: ClientTick
Critical: UGameEngine::Tick
Critical: Level Untitled
Critical: UpdateWorld
Critical: MainLoop
Critical: FMallocWindows::Free
Critical: FMallocWindows::Realloc
Critical: 10910191 0 FArray
Critical: FArray::Realloc
Critical: 0*2
Critical: FMallocWindows::Free
Exit: Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError
Exit: Executing UWindowsClient::ShutdownAfterError
Log: Waiting for file streaming thread to finish...
Exit: OpenAL Audio subsystem shut down.
Localization: No localization: Window.IDDIALOG_CrashBox.IDC_CrashBox (int)
Exit: Exiting.
Log: FileManager: Reading 0 GByte 118 MByte 240 KByte 614 Bytes from HD took 24.420838 seconds (24.232838 reading, 0.188000 seeking).
Log: FileManager: 0.640996 seconds spent with misc. duties
Uninitialized: Name subsystem shut down
Uninitialized: Log file closed, 07/19/07 14:33:53

So this looks like you did not even try to play a game, it just crashed on its own?

Yup.

Skippster108 wrote:Yup.

Hmmm when you said re-install did you mean the mod or the game? Sorry just dont have much to go on and since the log was clean that does not help much either

Nah, it's cool, I'm glad you're trying to help. I had meant I reinstalled Chaos, not UT. God, would take forever to reinstall it and the mods... >.< But yeah, I know the log is clean, thats why I couldn't figure it out myself. That, and I don't know what some of the stuff in the log means. I don't know, I never checked to see if the mod keeps anything in the registry, and when I reinstalled it I just deleted the chaos folder and slapped 3.7 then the 3.75 patch back on. I don't know, I'm willing to try basically anything save reinstalling UT itself, but I suppose if I'm left to nothing else, I can do that.

Nope you did it right...

Hmmm maybe we can have you do this. Rename your curret UT2004 dir. Re-install UT2004, patch it up to date, install chaos and see if that works? The beaty is that if it does not, you can delete the current UT2004 then restore from the renamed one... Now if it does work, then you may have to move those mods over.... sorry but other than that thats all i can think of

Well, I'll get back to you whenever I can. I hoped to avoid installing UT in any way, but then decided if I'm going to, I might as well, so I ripped out all the mods, and UT itself, and now its giving me some crap error when I try to start the installation for UT. Taking it up with Epic's forums, hopefully I can get some answers there. Thanks for the help in any event, JB.


EDIT: I fully reinstalled UT (figured out the problem myself) and I put Chaos 3.7 in. I then forgot that I hadn't put the Megapack in or patched UT or anything. So I threw the Megapack in, ran Chaos, and it crashed, but I figured, what the hell, ran it again, and it actually didn't crash at the main menu. I don't know how far I could've gotten, because I realized it was 3.7, not 3.75, so I patched Chaos, and now it won't run at all again.

Skipstart, anything in the log files?

The standard Unreal Tournament log has some unusual stuff, some of it is related to one of the Bonus Pack assault maps, and some related to one of the model/skins I have, but the Chaos Log is well, still clean. And I still can't get past the menu. I start it up and the menu sits for a bit, and then it just crashes. Don't need to do anything. Here's another log, though I don't think it will help, it is a bit shorter than the first.

Log: Log file open, 07/23/07 13:21:52
Init: Name subsystem initialized
Init: Detected: Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
Init: Version: 3369 (128.29)
Init: Compiled: Nov 23 2005 16:23:34
Init: Command line: -mod=ChaosUT2
Init: Character set: Unicode
Init: Base directory: C:\Program Files\UT2004\System\
Init: Ini:..\ChaosUT2\System\ChaosUT2.ini UserIni:..\ChaosUT2\System\ChaosUT2User.ini
Init: Build label: UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2005-11-23_16.22]
Init: Object subsystem initialized
Log: Splash screen filename is '..\ChaosUT2\Help\ChaosUT2Logo.bmp'
Log: ati2dvag.dll/RADEON X300/X550 Series
Log: Game class is 'GameInfo'
Log: Bringing Level Entry.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 13.848000...
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
Log: Browse: ChaosNoIntro.ut2?Name=Skippy?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Corrosion?team=1?Voice=XGame.RobotVoice?Sex=M
Log: Collecting garbage
Log: Purging garbage
Log: Garbage: objects: 27801->27801; refs: 287840
Log: Game class is 'CinematicGame'
Log: Bringing Level ChaosNoIntro.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 29.185000...
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
Log: ALAudio: Using DirectSound to record audio.
ScriptLog: New Player Skippy id=54b578610ee33e758af14487357be028
Log: Opened viewport
Log: Enter SetRes: 1024x768 Fullscreen 1
Log: Using back-buffer format 22(32-bit)
Log: Using depth-buffer format 77(32-bit)
Log: Creating device
Log: xD3DHelper::Init (QuadEmulation)
Log: Startup time: 51.397000 seconds
Log: Precaching: ChaosNoIntro.LevelInfo0
Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes
Log: Allocating 16384 byte dynamic index buffer.
Log: Finished precaching geometry in 0.083 seconds
Log: Finished precaching textures in 0.000 seconds
Debug: ChaosGUI_MainMenu.Opened() Sender:Package.ChaosGUI_MainMenu
Log: URL: Adding default option Name=Skippy
Log: URL: Adding default option Class=Engine.Pawn
Log: URL: Adding default option Character=Corrosion
Log: URL: Adding default option team=1
Log: URL: Adding default option Voice=XGame.RobotVoice
Log: Browse: Index.ut2?disconnect?Name=Skippy?Class=Engine.Pawn?Character=Corrosion?team=1?Voice=XGame.RobotVoice
Log: Failed; returning to Entry
ScriptLog: ChaosGUI_MainMenu NotifyLevelChange PendingConnection:False
Log: GP=FALSE
Log: Spawning new actor for Viewport WindowsViewport
ScriptLog: New Player Skippy id=54b578610ee33e758af14487357be028
Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes
Critical: UD3DRenderDevice::Present
Critical: UGameEngine::Draw
Critical: UWindowsViewport::Repaint
Critical: UWindowsClient::Tick
Critical: ClientTick
Critical: UGameEngine::Tick
Critical: Level Untitled
Critical: UpdateWorld
Critical: MainLoop
Critical: FMallocWindows::Free
Critical: FMallocWindows::Realloc
Critical: 10910191 0 FArray
Critical: FArray::Realloc
Critical: 0*2
Critical: FMallocWindows::Free
Exit: Executing UObject::StaticShutdownAfterError
Exit: Executing UWindowsClient::ShutdownAfterError
Log: Waiting for file streaming thread to finish...
Exit: OpenAL Audio subsystem shut down.
Localization: No localization: Window.IDDIALOG_CrashBox.IDC_CrashBox (int)
Exit: Exiting.
Log: FileManager: Reading 0 GByte 117 MByte 895 KByte 355 Bytes from HD took 22.273028 seconds (22.092028 reading, 0.181000 seeking).
Log: FileManager: 21.175802 seconds spent with misc. duties
Uninitialized: Name subsystem shut down
Uninitialized: Log file closed, 07/23/07 13:23:00


The only thing that jumps out at me is the line saying it Failed, with what little I can get out of it, it seems like it's saying it failed at fetching my player data from my User.ini in the UT folder. Just a guess.


EDIT: Quick notice. I got bored and decided to click Botmatch as fast as I could (cause it crashes semi-quickly). So chaos started up, I clicked Botmatch really quick, and I went into the Mode Select menu, and Chaos stablized. I can sit at the main menu as long as I wish and it won't crash. So I guess it's kinda resolved, more or less.

well glad its working, but wow thats a strange one

Heh, yeah I know. It's still a little testy if I minimize it on any of the menus, usually crashes, but I checked the log and nothing. But ehh, as long as I don't minimize it and I quickly jump into one of the menus, it kinda stabilizes, and I can use it normally.