KoTH Errors

CarbonGenesis · Post by **CarbonGenesis** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:42 pm

I've been enjoying the hell out of Chaos UT2 but there are a couple of problems that I've come up with.

First, when I installed it, it lists four maps, but only two of them are available for play.
The other two (the Swamp Temple and then the one that isn't the Pyramid level or the Dungeon level) are listed, but when you add them into the list of levels to play, it says that it can't find them.

Second, and more importantly, is that KoTH is glitching.
The HUD display in the upper-left which holds the score immediately places my name up with a score of 0, even if I haven't even been to the top of the hill.
Not only that, but when I get to the top of the hill, the score never goes up.
It'll go up for my teammates and it'll go up for bots, but not for me.

Mods I'm running in the game are: QuadJump, LowGrav, FloatyCadavers, Vampire, MonkeyMatrixMoves.
Mods I have installed on UT2K3 are: Jupiter Effect: Influx, Fatal Arts, Karma'd, MonkeyMatrixMoves, and of course, ChaosUT2.
I have the latest patch and one of the bonus packs and I'm about to install the Epic Bonus Pack.

Any clue on how to fix these problems?

Thanks in advance.

jeditobe1 · Post by **jeditobe1** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:27 pm

the epic pack is required for some of the levels, so i think thats one of your problems.

I dont know whats up with the KOTH scoreboard... but see if the epic bonus pack fixes that at all.

CarbonGenesis · Post by **CarbonGenesis** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:44 pm

OK, so I installed the Epic Bonus pack and booted UT2K3 up.
The EBP fixed the problem of the maps not being available.
But the scoreboard problem still persists.
And, upon entering the game, I noticed something else...

The bots don't seem to be particularly interested in fighting.
They stand there, mostly huddled with their teammates, and pretty much just wait for someone to pitch a grenade into the middle of them.
Then they die, respawn, and go right back to standing around one another.
My teammates seem at least marginally interested in taking the hill, but even then, they aren't really interested in firing on the enemy.
I'm going to try and disable the models I'm using and use the models that came with the game and see if that at least solves the problem with the passive bots.
I still don't know what to do about the scoreboard problem, however.

jeditobe1 · Post by **jeditobe1** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:55 pm

The koth AI is still being worked on a bit. Bots right now are set to try to take the hill unless someone engages them in combat (by shooting them for instance). At least thats what i understand

|GoD|Plaguelord|LDR| · Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:05 pm

Ok here is my problem w/ KoTH... I can never get points 4 sum reason, I'll let the Bot find the hill and let it start getting points... then I kill 'em I stand right where the Bot was but my points don't go up??? Y is this???

CarbonGenesis · Post by **CarbonGenesis** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:06 pm

OK, found the problem.
The scoreboard problem came from the MonkeyMatrixMoves mod.
Apparently, the "bullet-time" effect somehow causes a glitch and locks up the scoreboard after a few times of use.
So, yeah, it could probably still be used in conjunction with KotH, but it'd probably be like use for two games, go to the settings, turn off, turn back on, and then check it.

The bot AI for KotH improved with MMM turned off, but not by much.
They seem fairly interested in killing and winning on the Pyramid level, not so much on the swamp level.

Ah, well.
Thanks for the help; if I find any more glitches, I'll post again.

jeditobe1 · Post by **jeditobe1** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:19 pm

Yeah the Swamp level has had its bots redone... but the new version isnt out yet. Same for Mistyvalley.

jb · Post by jb » Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:52 pm

|GoD|Nemesis|LDR| wrote:Ok here is my problem w/ KoTH... I can never get points 4 sum reason, I'll let the Bot find the hill and let it start getting points... then I kill 'em I stand right where the Bot was but my points don't go up??? Y is this???

Can I get more info on this? What the AloneOnHill flag set? Which map?

|GoD|Plaguelord|LDR| · Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:03 am

jb wrote:Can I get more info on this? What the AloneOnHill flag set? Which map?

I've had this problem on all the maps of CUT2 KoTH, but I downloaded the other KoTH mod from another site (can't remember the site off the top of my head) but that one works perfect...

jb · Post by jb » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:51 am

Hmmm. ATM I have no idea why. What other muts do you have running?

Post by **R.Flagg** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:35 pm

If the not getting points issue were on MistyValley only, then it's a known bug. MistyValley is the only one that had this bug, that we knew of anyway, prior to the release. And even in that map, all you had to do was move around a bit, or leave hill and come back, then you start scoring again.

If you are getting it on other maps, then this is new. And of course we do have folks winning KOTH games, so it's either a rare bug, or something to do with what you are running in your game. And since you say you're getting it all the time, then my guess is that it's you.

More info please. And meet me online in our server sometime? Would like to see what happens for you there.

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