PR2 First Impressions

Post by **R.Flagg** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:35 am

Hi Wulf

Please make sure you got the Map Pack #2. (not 1.02, or 1.0)

Pop open your maps folder, and see if you see the map files themselves in there.

gamer119 · Post by **gamer119** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:37 am

First off, sure you got mappack 2? Did you download the umod or the zip? If you haven't already, download mappack 2 zip, there will be 10 Duel maps and 1 KOTH map. Installing those manually should get you going

WulfMan · Post by **WulfMan** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:55 am

double checked, the maps were in the maps folder, and I had the right map pack, rebooted my machine and everything worked fine after that, sorry to post in error

jeditobe1 · Post by **jeditobe1** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:11 am

no problem, these things happen

Lemunde · Post by **Lemunde** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:42 am

Everything looks great so far. Not as smooth online as offline but that's to be expected. Reminds me alot of Rune. Except whoever made that game was too lazy to include bot support. As far as bugs go the only thing I've really noticed is that in a botmatch Diva looks super deformed. It's kinda cool looking but it's obviously not what was intended. Otherwise awesome release.

I wish I could have recorded a demo. I just finished a match where me and some other guy were all over the place grappling to one area and then another trying our damnest to kill eachother. I haven't had this much fun online in a long time.

defalc · Post by **defalc** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:37 am

One thing I noticed was that in the offline duel, after I won a match and the camera did the slomo around the player, Sapphire got all deformed with a long neck and all. Consistently.

BIGFOOT_PI · Post by **BIGFOOT_PI** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:41 am

Just tried it- kinda cool. I also think it would be great if in future release the melee animations were better- but its a good start. My only gripe is I cannot hardly understand the melee anouncer round, countdown, fight and beheaded,etc sound effects. Having the cool bass voice effect is a good idea, but the words are unclear- especially fight and beheaded - and especially when mixed with crowd cheering. So if those soundfx could have some midrange and treble added back to them maybe it would help? I think they slowed the voice down TOO much to make the effect- I think a few notches faster would help.
Ill go back to playing more now that I just got the new map pack... cya!
ps- out of curiosity what was the idea behind the deadman chalk outline ? honestly seems a little cheesey to me IMO. I would prefer a big pool of blood.

Mad Max RW · Post by **Mad Max RW** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:43 pm

I think this is amazing. It's a lot more complex than what I expected. At first my ass was getting handed to me. You don't just aim with the mouse, you use it to help swing the weapons. If you time things just right you can kill a guy in one shot.

So far my favorite weapons are the bastard sword and battle axe.

Scorch · Post by **Scorch** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:34 pm

I like the double daggers for some reason. But, one dagger isnt placed right in the character's left hand.

I thank god for the proxy announcer.

defalc · Post by **defalc** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 1:49 pm

I really dislike the fact that in basically all the duel maps, there's 999 ammo for every gun in MAPPERS CHOICE. That makes it almost pointless to have melee weapons there, because there's not way anyone is going to get close enough to hit me with their daggers when I can spam grenades all over the place.

FurrySound · Post by **FurrySound** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:54 pm

defalc: go blame the mapper

Melekai · Post by **Melekai** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:24 pm

hmmm well im gona hve to run after trying afor a few minutes.. plays great, though havent been able to select the other wepaons.. only the bastard sword..

(btw bastard sword shouldnt the sharp and of the plabe be pointed towards the front iinstead of teh left - rght?)

ill go through allthe readmes when i get back

see ya

FurrySound · Post by **FurrySound** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:29 pm

When you switch to a different weapon, be sure to click the 'Select this Weapon' button, otherwise it will stay with the already selected weapon.

jb · Post by jb » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:02 pm

Just tried it- kinda cool. I also think it would be great if in future release the melee animations were better- but its a good start.

We only have one person to do the animation and he was very busy with RL so we want to add more later.

My only gripe is I cannot hardly understand the melee announcer round, countdown, fight and beheaded,etc sound effects. Having the cool bass voice effect is a good idea, but the words are unclear- especially fight and beheaded - and especially when mixed with crowd cheering. So if those soundfx could have some midrange and treble added back to them maybe it would help? I think they slowed the voice down TOO much to make the effect- I think a few notches faster would help.

Maybe try the ProxyAnnoucer as he will work in Duel.

ps- out of curiosity what was the idea behind the deadman chalk outline ? honestly seems a little cheesey to me IMO. I would prefer a big pool of blood.

That was a user selectable feature we had in PR1.0 of the mod. Its suppose to outline the "dead" body of the player. Right now is just an approximation and could be tweaked some more. But glad your enjoying the new stuff!

I like the double daggers for some reason. But, one dagger isn't placed right in the character's left hand.

Yeap that's one of the first things we will do is get a better stance for the daggers. As well as more moves that better fit the daggers.

I really dislike the fact that in basically all the duel maps, there's 999 ammo for every gun in MAPPERS CHOICE. That makes it almost pointless to have melee weapons there, because there's not way anyone is going to get close enough to hit me with their daggers when I can spam grenades all over the place.

Defalc, yea I hear you. It was discussed in our forums about how to properly handle this. We did limit the ammo on our more spammy weapons (napalm grenades). But we can revisit this issue again. However my intent for the Mappers option was to allow for some unique duel games. Say for example you have two tall towers and have them spaced just far enough apart so that jumping/grappling does not work well. Then with mappers choice you can use snipers/ERDW to have a sniper duel. Or if you have a map where you don't always have a direct line of sight, then the Cutter or the Nade launcher can be used to make that bank shot. That was the goal for the Mappers Choice.

NeoNight · Post by **NeoNight** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:08 pm

did you guys noticed that when you do a foward downward strike with the templar your character is actually hitting the guy with the dull end of the blade?

... looks like a small animation bug to me.