dont like the MUG ?

TheForgotten · Post by **TheForgotten** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:43 pm

Lots of games have smoke grenades (i like the u2xmp one), but I think we need something a little more chaotic.

And as for lightning vs smoke, well theres no need to settle for just one. And water should be highly conductive.

Brandon · Post by **Brandon** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:10 pm

In all games I like to be the pyro, its so much fun, but I think Electricity would be nice, and maybe chaos could make smoke grenades instead of the mug making smoke.

DemonHunter · Post by **DemonHunter** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:14 pm

Smoke Gernades are Soooo passe.
I say we make the MUG do smoke, That way we can lay precise smoke Screens

jeditobe1 · Post by **jeditobe1** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:15 pm

we already have disruptor (flash) grenades.

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:18 pm

yes we do, but smoke screens are much cooler

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:49 pm

jeditobe1 wrote:we already have disruptor (flash) grenades.

thats exactly what i said

about the nest post

:But if youre something like the flag carrier i think you would choose damaging fog over fog

TheForgotten · Post by **TheForgotten** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:12 am

DemonHunter wrote:Smoke Gernades are Soooo passe.

This was what I was trying to say. I also think that perhaps it should be the default ammo type, because then it would be more like the grenade lancher and crossbow - start with a simpe ammo type but pick up more usefull ones.
However smoke/mist or fog, maybe it could effect more that just visiblity (or maybe not).

Also I like suggestions about an acid ammo type, this is in keeping with mug behavior (ie. ammo in pressurised gas/liquid tanks) but the lightning one might be more believable on a different weapon.

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:37 am

TheForgotten wrote: Also I like suggestions about an acid ammo type, this is in keeping with mug behavior (ie. ammo in pressurised gas/liquid tanks) but the lightning one might be more believable on a different weapon.

Yes but Lightning and the MuG have been discussed (in the public) for a long time now , and right now it would fit. Its not too unbelievable to have an electrical adaption kit for the mug. We could have the canister be loaded with Electrolytic , superconductive liquid , that emits a Thin fog . . . .

GASP!!!!

Thats how we can do it.

we can have a lightning attatchment that comes in two parts. A telsa coil adapter , and a canister of Electrolytic Fluid. The Telse coil part can clamp onto the end and generate electricity , and the Electrolytic fluid could be sprayed as a fog that makes the air appropriate for electrical conductivity. then we could make the electrical blast arc to anyone within the fog.

Just use airblast to plop out some electrosmog , and primary to charge up a shot and rend the innards of the cloud with lighning.

This could let us Put Fog and Lightning feasably into the same weapon.

of course , Lighning could still be disharged without the aid of fog. but it would be much more innacurate

We could even add some non damaging DoT's . we could make it so that the weapon you hold fires randomly for a few seconds. Possibly even firing faster than it's normal rate of fire. but uncontrollably.

TheForgotten · Post by **TheForgotten** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:55 am

You could replace the air alternate fire, the an electricy one that reacts to each ammo type - like use the awo to make a pool of flamethower ammon on the ground then ignite it.

But the air is kind of fun in low gravity.

AWO key isn't used by the mug yet

|GoD|Plaguelord|LDR| · Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:03 am

Pepito wrote:Yes but Lightning and the MuG have been discussed (in the public) for a long time now , and right now it would fit. Its not too unbelievable to have an electrical adaption kit for the mug. We could have the canister be loaded with Electrolytic , superconductive liquid , that emits a Thin fog . . . .

GASP!!!!

Thats how we can do it.

we can have a lightning attatchment that comes in two parts. A telsa coil adapter , and a canister of Electrolytic Fluid. The Telse coil part can clamp onto the end and generate electricity , and the Electrolytic fluid could be sprayed as a fog that makes the air appropriate for electrical conductivity. then we could make the electrical blast arc to anyone within the fog.

Just use airblast to plop out some electrosmog , and primary to charge up a shot and rend the innards of the cloud with lighning.

This could let us Put Fog and Lightning feasably into the same weapon.

of course , Lighning could still be disharged without the aid of fog. but it would be much more innacurate

We could even add some non damaging DoT's . we could make it so that the weapon you hold fires randomly for a few seconds. Possibly even firing faster than it's normal rate of fire. but uncontrollably.

Someone please give Pepito a promotion

I luv this idea for the Mug and it would make the fans happy by giving them a smoke screen and a form of lightning all at the sametime... so I'm putting my foot down on this idea and nothing, I mean NOTHING, you sick minded coders come up with can make me change my mind on how great this idea is

lord_kungai · Post by **lord_kungai** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:35 am

|GoD|Plaguelord|LDR| wrote:Someone please give Pepito a promotion

I'm with Plaguelord!!!

But keep the air, TheForgotten. Maybe you can use the air from the MUG to blow away gaseous stuff like poison, fire, this electrolytic, superconductive liquid, etc.

jb · Post by jb » Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:12 pm

lord_kungai wrote: But keep the air, TheForgotten. Maybe you can use the air from the MUG to blow away gaseous stuff like poison, fire, this electrolytic, superconductive liquid, etc.

We would love to do that. However the particle system that generates this is hard to interact with. Meaning I dont think we can do this

Isotope · Post by **Isotope** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:33 pm

I think that the electic thing would be best suited as a link replacement... But for the MUG, would it be possible to freeze/boil water volumes?

Kaboodles · Post by **Kaboodles** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:47 pm

I think you should be able to burn/freeze (and maybe zap) yourself with the MUG in order to make the weapon less spammy. This would require you to be a lot more careful when you use it.

And I think the secondary fire should be an airblast that uses whatever ammo type is currently selected. Like a big fireball that knocks people away and sets them on fire when the fire ammo is selected, and an arctic chilling blast when the ice ammo is selected.

And can you make it so that freezing you can use the MUG to freeze the ground and make it slippery?

Post by **Shadowstar** » Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:55 pm

jb, what if we used a similar system to what I used to make the lightning walls in Arena2?

The way it worked was that I spawned a beam emitter at the point where the player was, with its endpoint being an arbitrary actor inside a generator. This would create a beam between the two, so it looked like lightning was shooting out of a generator and hitting the player.

So, to get this effect, we spawn an emitter on the victim player in question, with its beam endpoint set to the tag of the damaging actor. This will cause a beam of lightning to appear between the damage emitter actor and the player. I can cap the effect on both ends with extra emitters (spark and glows), to make it look smooth, and we'll have a real sweet visual to go with this weapon option. All we'd need to do is set a tag on the actor that causes the damage, and the emitter should do the rest of the work.

In addition, we could spawn random lightning arcs as well, so its not just one bolt shooting out.