Unfair Treatment

Phantasma · Post by **Phantasma** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:11 am

Whats up with you people that play chaos ut, why do you call me a hacker? Is it because I win games and get headshots? I dunno what the problem is I kill a few people and they just carry grudges. One of your admins named 107:Fizzy or whatever kicked me one time for beating him in a duel, what is up with that? An his friend :TBE:Decado thinks I lag hack because he joined a already laggy server and I headshot him 3 times in a row with the axe. How does that make me lag hacking for headshotting him? An he claims he has witnesses, no he doesn't and there is no proof. He died got upset and right away called me a lag hacker, then he goes on to convince everyone else I lag hack and they kick vote me, what is up with that why are your admins shore losers. I have never seen such poor sportsmen ship in my time of online gaming. The game's engine is pretty easy so I don't understand whats the big deal when you lose I mean come on most players just stand there and spam heavy swing and prey for the best. I seriously doubt anyone would waste time to hack a fairly unpopluar mod and to call someone a hacker just because there better then you is just plain noobish. I mastered the system and I win matches how does that make me a hacker? Is it that hard to take losing?

I just joined the main server today and right away fizzy and decado accuse me of hacking. When I try to defend myself both of them threaten to ban me. So when I say I will post this on the forums Fizzy kicks me from the server and here I am. Another admin that posts here as well named "rye" doesn't like me either because I killed him while he was typing. Really now, how can you just stop to type in the middle of a fight and expect no one not to kill you? Thats just plain ignorant. then when I kill him in a fight without him typing he gets upset and starts to whine about it. So when I die to another player he decides to spam the chat about how I died. How old are these 3 admins and what is with there ego, if they can't take losing and have to ban people for beating them then they just shouldn't be admins. They probably are a group of single guys living in there parents basements trying to make people feel as bad as them. Quote fizzy "ITS MY SERVER I'LL BAN WHOEVER I WANT" It that isn't a man missing something in life I dunno what is. All they do is going around spreading rumors that I hack so I get banned from other servers, because of them I am only allowed on 2 servers. I wouldn't say there names because those "men" will probably get there admins to ban me as well.

I really like chaos UT but these admins just kill the game with there excuses for losing and ego trips. Don't wonder why so little people play the game with players like them running things.[/b]

jeditobe1 · Post by **jeditobe1** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:08 am

Well:
A) We cannot control the admins who run servers, excepting the ones we ourselves admin.
B) The OFFICIAL server, which the Chaos team admins, is located at 66.153.113.24:7777

FizzyB's server is not the official one, but he owns it and admins it and we cannot control it. Hate to say that we take no reponsibility in the matter, but this is not something we can control.

Kaboodles · Post by **Kaboodles** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:16 pm

The reason people kicked you for talk/idler killing is because it's probably against the server rules. I know that's how it is in Fizzy's server (that's why I got mad when you nearly killed me while I was talking). Ask first, or request them to display the rules as the MotD.

Plus, the reason for talk icons is so that you don't kill people while they're typing something. It's not a "kill me first" icon. I usually back off when people are talking, but not when they're gloating or doing an animated taunt (killing gloaters is hilarious

).

About the lag hacking, it's kinda silly. If you were using the single axe (which you probably were), then you should kinda expect headshots, since the single axe is a very headshot-happy weapon. Lag shouldn't really affect headshots, since headshots and one-hit kills are mostly luck anyway.

Doesn't Chaos have a "talking" icon?

Phantasma · Post by **Phantasma** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:49 pm

About the headshot thing, it is a little more then luck because I can get them anytime I want to with the swords and daggers as well as the single axe. All it takes is good aim and both players need to have even lag for me to get it everytime but thats not always the case because everyone's ping is usually way off. In other words everything but the axe takes alot of timing. That thing about the killing people chating. Ok here is a example, if some guy is fighting you then all of a sudden stops to type RIGHT IN YOUR FACE, tell me you wouldn't honestly kill him? I could understand if he/she backed away. But right in my face, personally I see that as a insult. An chat killing shouldn't even be a rule, the only server I saw up 2 days ago had 4 guys talking about nonsince and not dueling. There is a time and a place to chat and it sure as hell isn't in UT2004, get aim, msn, IRC, whatever you need just not UT2004 most of us are here to win.
An no they NEVER display anything in the MOTD. The ONLY player that accuses me of lag hacking and got me banned from one server :TBE: Decado he just so happens to join a server with a high ping and not expect lag. I just happened to be using the single axe to make up for the lag. SO when :TBE: Decado comes up aganist me he gets killed by headshot about 3 times then accuses me of lag hacking. I'm sorry but if you lagged into my weapon its not my fault you died. Whats funny is that this defeat bothers him so much he goes on to convince everyone I was lag hacking because I was winning, thats just plain sad taking losing to that level. I go on different names and follow him into a room and say something about Phantasma and he accusing Phantasma(me) of all these legendary hacking methods I never even heard of. An fizzy gave him admin controls and you can just imagine what happened to me when I joined that server.

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:08 pm

IMHO , IF fizzy doesnt want you on his server , there isnt much that ranting here can do about it. I'm not one for dishonorable tactics or false accusations , but Fizzy Pays to keep that server , and he has every right to do what he pleases with it.

I realize that sounded rude so I apologize as no offence was meant. The fact of the matter is that we could keep berating Fizzy and those who play on his server , or we could move on. I mean . Noone can please everyone all of the time , and Stepping on other peoples toes is bound to happen. but ranting is never the answer. these posts border on attacks against community members.

EDIT: also

...a fairly unpopluar mod...

I take offence to that

Phantasma · Post by **Phantasma** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:37 pm

Hey if him and his friend love to spread rumors to get me banned from all the duel servers what I am supposed to do? I shouldn't have to change my name or play differently because some guy lost. This is a game no one needs to take it seriously. It only bothers me because they have 70% of the duel community thinking I am a elite hacker. You know what its like to see "OMG its Phantasma" then that person leaves. Or my favorite the hacker chants that encourage everyone to go after me first and when I pick them off it only fuels the chants until I leave. If you call that kind of thing a good time then I wouldn't want to see a bad one. He banned me because I said I would post on the forums about his accusations of me hacking.

FizzyB · Post by **FizzyB** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:45 pm

Ok first off you have never ever played me in a duel, the time you were on my server I was spectating and admining.
Secondly you werent banned for beating anyone or 'hacking', we have a no type kill policy, we feel its a lame and cowardly way to fight and a lot of the time the people who come to my server know one another and enjoy to talk.
You type killed and got a uadmin slap, after which you proceeded to throw random insults in my general direction and then got kick banned.

Decado told me about your 'cheating' some time ago, and I told him i found it highly unlikely you were delibretly cheating and at the most you were just lagging.

But the issue here is your attitude, you came onto the server with a bad attitude and got banned for it. Post about me and my 'ego' as much as you like, you're banned and will stay banned.

You know before you even came to the server I was asked by at least 15 people (no exageration) to ban you on sight, including my clan members. Now I've always stuck by not banning anyone unless i see them commiting an offense personally, i gave you a chance and you wasted it, now you are banned.

-Fizz

FizzyB · Post by **FizzyB** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:00 pm

Also if you should ever feel like apologising to me for the personal insults, ill assume you've decided to rectify your attitude and give you another chance. Until then you'll remain banned.

Phantasma · Post by **Phantasma** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:20 pm

Ok Fizzy lets refresh your memory. During the first few days of the latest patch I did in fact play you and kill you by headshot. I went on to talk about the flaw in your fighting style and you then saw fit to kick me. I assume you saw that as a insult being that I was the first person to kill you on that server at that time.

Secondly, I was never admin slapped by you and not on your server. An I don't recall any random insults to you EVER An I only played and killed you once. An that was during the early days of the latest patch. ALso it has been brought to my attention that someone has been posing as "Phantasma". An if I am being blamed for this person that is just unfair and wrong. I shouldn't have to change my name because someone is carrying a grudge and trying to ruin my image.
Your Decado friend joined a laggy server, everyone was lagging. I got a headshot on him 3 times during that match and apparently it bothered him during the lag because he said "his performance doesn't change". Well lets do simple thinking for a moment. If its lagging why would I use a close range weapon when I could get hit at any random moment? I headshot him 3 times during the lag and went on to win the match. Call it luck or lag thats what happened.
An when I came on your server your friend Decado started talking trash right away I am supposed to just take his false accusations and your just backing him up all the way with no form of proof. I did to post on the forums and you saw it fit to ban me. I am sorry but being accused of hacking and cheating or whatever the hell you think I was doing isn't something anyone is going to laugh off. Namely when there spreading rumors so I could get banned from more servers. its pretty bad the only way you can beat someone is by banning them for being better then you and actually had taken the time to learn the system. But yeah if you want to ban me for being better then you and your little clan so be it. I am just better then you but please don't be a lame ass and spread rumors to other servers that I cheat and all this other crap you people keep using as a excuse for losing. Why can't I just be that good, why do I have to be labeled a hacker.

If it means that much to you I am sorry I shattered you and your clans ego when I beheaded you all. Don't hate the player hate the game. I never cheated once in my life and I plan to keep it that way.

FizzyB · Post by **FizzyB** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:26 pm

you've never played me, yawn...
And you were banned for attitude im not involved in spreading rumours and i dont care in the slightest about all this hacking nonsense.
I dont appreciate insults and thats why you were banned, you've NEVER played a duel against me.

Madogg · Post by **Madogg** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:59 pm

"If it means that much to you I am sorry I shattered you and your clans ego when I beheaded you all."

.... first time I met you in a server, Phantasma ... you were as spec, trying to get into the game :/ but rather than wait for some one to leave:
you spam, you throw random insults at any one in game, and you tried kicking up a huge argument with one or two of the players until eventually some one left...

So there you are, in game waiting for a turn - continuing the argument with one of the players, saying things I might get banned for if I quote

"Attitude Problem" <------------

But back to the quote, "If it means that much to you I am sorry I shattered you and your clans ego when I beheaded you all." ..... you mention ego, when as a matter of fact you spend most of the round time running from the one remaining player (4 way) until the amplifier appears, and then turn around to kill the player ... and run your mouth about how you "own" .... and even DURING that round, the other three players were shouting "omfg your lagging / warping every where" At the time I wasnt bothered, because I was still waiting in line and hadnt noticed you lagging or what ever -_- but when my turn came, I lay 2 clean shots, followed by a lucky head shot and get a mouthfull in return. Why ? Because, as ive said, you have a bad attitude - but judging from a few more kills (by other players before you accuse me of having some type of ego) id say you were a sore loser ^_^

In any case

"If it means that much to you I am sorry I shattered you and your clans ego when I beheaded you all."

beheaded me - never
small clan - not so little
your sorry - worthless to me because quite frankly, i think you and your very childish behaviour / attitude stinks. Obviously, you'll feel quite annoyed at this, so feel free to come by and search for 107+Madogg and attempt a head shot

Btw, as for the "lag hack" or what ever, its pretty hard to lag at all as bad as you "were" with a ping below 14 (and thats the fake ping on the F1 menu) <----------- And thats both a Euro Server and a server based in the USA, so dont blame location, unless you live on planet Mars.

- 107+Madogg

Kyllian · Post by **Kyllian** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:15 pm

Phantasma wrote:One of your admins named 107:Fizzy[/b]

He's not one of our admins. The only people who could be one of "our" admins is anyone on the Chaos team who starts up a server(Furry is the only one I can think of offhand that has a dedicated server

Phantasma · Post by **Phantasma** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:34 pm

Maddogg that rings a bell your one of the main guys that claim I am a hacker because I headshotted you all the time. I remember you leaving because it got so bad for you. You try to quote me alot but you don't really say much on your own and your just making up stories about me thats not amusing. I played with you twice and you were lagging pretty badly and the other time you left because I was headshotting everyone with the axe. But hey there is other Phantasma's out there so maybe you ran into one. An don't even begin to bring honor into this everyone who plays Chaos insults everyone. usually stop to type "pwned" or whatever as soon as they get a kill. You realize that anytime YOU kill someone you call them a n00b? That is a insult I am correct? An I only go out of my way to insult someone that was being annoying, like you for example talking trash about me lag hacking. Your the kind of person that deserves to be insulted when they lose. Your not half as good as you think you are. For one I NEVER go on ranting about how I own in a game so you can drop that little act. the only swore loser I see is the guy calling a person a lag hacker in a server thats already laggy. I've headed you and Fizzy. I only got to kill fizzy once because he banned me soon after and as for you, you ran into the axe a number of times while you tried to hit me with your katana. Oh An Fizzy I DID in fact kill you. All you do is stand still and hope your opponent makes a mistake then you simply move to the side and "hopefully" hit them with a heavy side swing. You use the purple Skaarj Model, An when you fought me you did that lame waiting game thing and I moved back and dashed at you and took your head off with the axe. If you don't remember that its fine. But it did happen and you were a swore loser about it just like maddogg in that laggey server.
Stop trying to turn this into a "he say, she say deal". You know I didn't hack that day or ever, I was just the better player. Its hard to swallow someone is better then you but you don't need to be making bad rumors about it.
The only reason you even bothered to make a post on this forum is because Fizzy needed a clan member to back him out of a corner.An hopefully save him from people seeing he is a swore loser "I ban who I want"

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:57 pm

Could we get this thread closed up? this Flame is getting annoying . . .
Disputes like this should be Kept to PM's.

Also On a PERSONAL Note, I don't really like the way you refer to the mod and it's community as unpopular , and Ignorant respectively.and , with the Way you mention to your own skills , I think you should be more careful as to how you throw around the word ego . . .

Kaboodles · Post by **Kaboodles** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:57 pm

I'm not sure if there are special places in the Internet to flame people and have big arguments (I don't surf much), but I'm sure the Chaotic Dreams forums is not one of them. Please resolve this now, or take your personal vendettas elsewhere and resolve this through another medium, like IRC or, better yet, on the arena, so you can stage some sort of cool "trial through combat" kind of thing. You are welcome to to these forums and talk about Chaos stuff and suggest improvements to the game. Just don't turn the forums into a giant flame war.

It pains me to see so much hate.

(Just kidding about the pain part. I actually find flame wars funny sometimes.

Just not here)

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