Why is it everytime someone dies to a weapon the weapon is considered noobish. One guy says this and then I headshot him with the single axe and he calls me "Noob Axe". Then I kill him again with daggers and he calls that noobish too, after that he left he had me rofl because of that first line he said. I notice everyone goes around saying that, and everyone likes to say the Single Axe is hacked. One Admin goes so far as to ban anyone for using it. I personally don't see the big deal because I can beat it with a number of weapons, I understand the heavy swing aims for the neck but if people can't see the realism in the swing clearly it looks like it will take your head off. So why would you walk into it? No weapon is hacked, maybe a swing is too good but no weapon is hacked. If you can't work around the move your likely to get upset and call it cheap.
I must admit, the heavy swing of the mace is too good, and so is the heavy swing of the axe. Daggers should hit faster, they hit so slow and the longer your weapon touches someone the more damage so thats why it seems so strong. Daggers should be somewhat faster, The swords should have they heavy swing change to a swing similair to that or the Warhammer's Medium Swing. Therefore giving sword users a equal headshot chance as the axe. The mace should have a swing like this also its heavy swing covers way too much distance and players can take advantage of that alot. An the Light swing of the warhammer is way too good, should be slower and use 2 hands like the mace, I mean come on "a massive weapon". An that side heavy swing is just plain laughable. The Katana's heavy is a real gamble move which is good, but there is nothing samurai about it. The side heavy or medium attack would be nicer if it was like Yoshimistsu's ->,->, right punch. The one where he counters and cuts thur the side of his enemy samurai style.
An thats, my opinion on the weapons and some fair balancing.
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Phantasma,
thanks for the feedback. Weapon balancing is a losse - loose call. No matter what we do some one will not like it. However we can try to look for the obvious issues and correct those. So at some point we can come back and double check the melee's to see what needs to be tweaked. Thanks again!
thanks for the feedback. Weapon balancing is a losse - loose call. No matter what we do some one will not like it. However we can try to look for the obvious issues and correct those. So at some point we can come back and double check the melee's to see what needs to be tweaked. Thanks again!
Jb
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Fizzy I'm sure you do, but I agree with Phant. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. The axe is harder to heat than most weapons but then so is the mace! I use the mace regularly alone with the bastard sword, which I find pretty balanced, but it's head shot kills happens more often thatn normal kills.
What ARE you on about phantasma?
Daggers should hit faster:
ERR no that would mean people spam them more which means more people using them if they get any faster people with daggers will be untouchable (not that they arent allready)
The swords should have they heavy swing change to a swing similair to that or the Warhammer's Medium Swing. Therefore giving sword users a equal headshot chance as the axe:
a sword doesnt swing like a war hammer its not supposed to. however like the other night i swang and blocked a pair of daggers using a sword ... and then the daggers somehow took my head off.. and the swing wasnt even over
An the Light swing of the warhammer is way too good,
Light > Heavy
Heavy > Light
IMO
The Katana's heavy is a real gamble move which is good, but there is nothing samurai about it
About the only thing i agree with you. like the lunge ... why would a samuri strike head on? they are supposed to be "Stealthy" maybe striking to the side? they would also block while holding the sword in two hands (one on the grip one on the blade) plus why not an upwards cut?
the fact of the matter is some of the things u say dont need changing they need tweaking...
and your comments about the noob axe ... most people hate it. its more lucky than the katanapeople dont like it - its a fact of life on some servers deal with it. everyone is entitled to their opinion. and i dont think they are calling you a noob axe i think they are calling the wep a noob axe
as for being banned for using a noob axe: yea its unfair but most people font like it its the admins server to do with what they please. again deal wth it.
Thats my 10 pence worth
-Dragona
Daggers should hit faster:
ERR no that would mean people spam them more which means more people using them if they get any faster people with daggers will be untouchable (not that they arent allready)
The swords should have they heavy swing change to a swing similair to that or the Warhammer's Medium Swing. Therefore giving sword users a equal headshot chance as the axe:
a sword doesnt swing like a war hammer its not supposed to. however like the other night i swang and blocked a pair of daggers using a sword ... and then the daggers somehow took my head off.. and the swing wasnt even over
An the Light swing of the warhammer is way too good,
Light > Heavy
Heavy > Light
IMO
The Katana's heavy is a real gamble move which is good, but there is nothing samurai about it
About the only thing i agree with you. like the lunge ... why would a samuri strike head on? they are supposed to be "Stealthy" maybe striking to the side? they would also block while holding the sword in two hands (one on the grip one on the blade) plus why not an upwards cut?
the fact of the matter is some of the things u say dont need changing they need tweaking...
and your comments about the noob axe ... most people hate it. its more lucky than the katanapeople dont like it - its a fact of life on some servers deal with it. everyone is entitled to their opinion. and i dont think they are calling you a noob axe i think they are calling the wep a noob axe
as for being banned for using a noob axe: yea its unfair but most people font like it its the admins server to do with what they please. again deal wth it.
Thats my 10 pence worth
-Dragona
no they are not harder to hit, you are just not as good at hitting them, different weapons need different stratergies to defeat!
The only serious imbalance is the single axe, its damage is too high allowing for 'lucky spam shots' But its easy enough to hit and im yet to meet a perticuarly scary axe user.
The mace is easy enough to hit, it has perticular openings as does every weapon.
The single axe does not have too much chance of headshotting, i get endless headshots with the BS, the problem with the axe is the amount of damage it gives from non headshots.
The point here is you guys need to learn how to fight different weapons, just because YOU have trouble doesnt mean that weapon is unbalanced!
The only serious imbalance is the single axe, its damage is too high allowing for 'lucky spam shots' But its easy enough to hit and im yet to meet a perticuarly scary axe user.
The mace is easy enough to hit, it has perticular openings as does every weapon.
The single axe does not have too much chance of headshotting, i get endless headshots with the BS, the problem with the axe is the amount of damage it gives from non headshots.
The point here is you guys need to learn how to fight different weapons, just because YOU have trouble doesnt mean that weapon is unbalanced!
As we can clearly see this guy is starting a flame war and carries a grudge against me ever since I beaten him and his clan by headshot on his server.FizzyB wrote:PLEASE dont not change anything based on what this guy has just said, he has no idea what hes talking about.
-that is all
"The only serious imbalance is the single axe, its damage is too high allowing for 'lucky spam shots' But its easy enough to hit and im yet to meet a perticuarly scary axe user."
You have before; you just banned that one for headshotting you and ending your winning strike. The Axe is only going to hurt alot if you let it get in close to you. Thats a big weapon racking down on you afterall.
All players do all day is spam a sweeping heavy swing and run in the opposite direction whats the big deal nothing is going to change.Dragona wrote:ERR no that would mean people spam them more which means more people using them if they get any faster people with daggers will be untouchable (not that they arent allready)
An what I meant about the way the sword swings is like a angle not like warhammer exactly, haven't you ever watch any movies with swords in them? An there is nothing REAL about the way the warhammer is used in this game so lets not go there.
"a sword doesnt swing like a war hammer its not supposed to. however like the other night i swang and blocked a pair of daggers using a sword ... and then the daggers somehow took my head off.. and the swing wasnt even over"
Blocking doesn't last long enough it should last until you release the key.Just don't blame the weapon blame the hit detection its not the greatest thing out there. An my comments about the "noob axe" I seen alot of idiots calling players noob axe just for touching the thing.[/color]
im glad someone mentioned the single axe, i was afraid to give my opinion about it due to the fact all these " nerf this " complaints were flying around, mine would probably be just another irrelevent complaint. Iv seen some pretty obvious cheese with the single axe in the hands of some not so likley champions , more so then other weapons. And fizz also brings up another point, once you truely learn the game no weapon is really all that imbalanced, its just a matter of cattering your style to different opponents.
P.S. can we make phant go away
? Hes got bad karma, it smells like rotten eggs.
, more so then other weapons. And fizz also brings up another point, once you truely learn the game no weapon is really all that imbalanced, its just a matter of cattering your style to different opponents.P.S. can we make phant go away
? Hes got bad karma, it smells like rotten eggs.