BTW, some of us are in IRC now, as we often are. Please feel free to come on by for some civil chat.
irc.chaoticdreams.org #chaoticdreams
chaos ripped O_O wtf
Okay, I'll take the weps off the server. I'd really like to keep them there as stand alones, because 15 megs is a much better DL than over 100.
I know there will be disspointment from the players but oh well.
I really think in the end this means less people enjoying your weps... well, thanks for the great mod anyhow.
I know there will be disspointment from the players but oh well.
I really think in the end this means less people enjoying your weps... well, thanks for the great mod anyhow.
If you are going to insist on stand-alone Chaos weapon mutators, or nothing, then I cannot help you. We are not into that.
I too would like to have more Chaos players, but what you are asking for is not a new request, and it's not something we are going to do. Sorry if you don't see our side of things.
The invite to IRC for chat is still open. If you are willing to relook at the situation (ie: back off the stand-alone mut ultimatum), then maybe we can find a setup that works for you in the future.
Thank you for repsecting our wishes, that is very cool of you.
I too would like to have more Chaos players, but what you are asking for is not a new request, and it's not something we are going to do. Sorry if you don't see our side of things.
The invite to IRC for chat is still open. If you are willing to relook at the situation (ie: back off the stand-alone mut ultimatum), then maybe we can find a setup that works for you in the future.
Thank you for repsecting our wishes, that is very cool of you.
Yes, I understand folks get tired of waiting when getting downloads from a server. That's why I usually never play anywhere that is forcing models or skins for example, since that's not required anymore with the '04 system.
But in the case of mods and maps and whatnot, the best suggestion is to have your players download content before they connect. That's always the best way to go.
Of course not everyone is gonna want to do that, but it's just the way it is. Not every mod author(s) is going to want to break their mod apart into pieces just so each player on the net can have the one piece they wanted.
Each player out there may not be concerned about the mods success and future, but the mod authors certainly are. And I can tell you now, that if we took that route from day 1, Chaos as we know it would not be here today.
But in the case of mods and maps and whatnot, the best suggestion is to have your players download content before they connect. That's always the best way to go.
Of course not everyone is gonna want to do that, but it's just the way it is. Not every mod author(s) is going to want to break their mod apart into pieces just so each player on the net can have the one piece they wanted.
Each player out there may not be concerned about the mods success and future, but the mod authors certainly are. And I can tell you now, that if we took that route from day 1, Chaos as we know it would not be here today.
Come on guys let us keep your mods.
After all CV has always given you the credit for them.
I would let you play with my toys and you could pick which ones.
I don't mind begging, those mods are fun.
Don't be stingy! share, Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!
I will let you shoot my 50 cal. BMG. (yes I do have one).
Gandolf
After all CV has always given you the credit for them.
I would let you play with my toys and you could pick which ones.
I don't mind begging, those mods are fun.
Don't be stingy! share, Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!
I will let you shoot my 50 cal. BMG. (yes I do have one).
Gandolf
Gandolf
CV I can already tell you what my vote would be...no.
CV has always made it know what the source of the weps are, the WGS was simply to keep other servers from just grabing the weps without haveing to do the work CV did. If it were not for WGS I would have never know what CE was. I have played regular CE servers and its in no way the same! I hate the huge Download. Even downloading the mod outside of ut as you suggest is no fun. I personally don't find servers on the web and look to see what I need to have installed before I can play on that server. I usually simply go into ut look for servers in the list. If I hit huge Downloads....Next...I have better things to do with my time.
Maybe the weapon naming could have been a bit different like:
Chaos <weapon name> - WGS
CV has always run hands down the BEST server. He knows his audience very well and has a very loyal fan base. People have become such good friends on his server that Clans have started from meeting on his server.
CV Keep doing what you do! if this is the way it has to be we'll have to play without Chaos (too bad) you need to do what is right for you... I don't think that this is right.
I feel badly that CE feels this way... not sure if I'll support your mod from this point forward.
CV has always made it know what the source of the weps are, the WGS was simply to keep other servers from just grabing the weps without haveing to do the work CV did. If it were not for WGS I would have never know what CE was. I have played regular CE servers and its in no way the same! I hate the huge Download. Even downloading the mod outside of ut as you suggest is no fun. I personally don't find servers on the web and look to see what I need to have installed before I can play on that server. I usually simply go into ut look for servers in the list. If I hit huge Downloads....Next...I have better things to do with my time.
Maybe the weapon naming could have been a bit different like:
Chaos <weapon name> - WGS
CV has always run hands down the BEST server. He knows his audience very well and has a very loyal fan base. People have become such good friends on his server that Clans have started from meeting on his server.
CV Keep doing what you do! if this is the way it has to be we'll have to play without Chaos (too bad) you need to do what is right for you... I don't think that this is right.
I feel badly that CE feels this way... not sure if I'll support your mod from this point forward.
You're kidding right? So..., creating the mod, for free on our own time, providing server to play it on, and a forums to discuss it on, all absolutely free of charge...., yet if we don't provide this one request, we are being stingy.Gandolf wrote:Don't be stingy! share, Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!
Well, I'm sorry but that does't sound like a logical statement to me. Sounds rather selfish and narrow-sighted IMO.
OH please. Chaos has been around long before this gentlemen took a couple of our weapons and altered them and renamed them. And Chaos will be around long after. We are not relying on this gentlemen and his server alone for the success or failure of Chaos.Mendal wrote:CV I can already tell you what my vote would be...no.
CV has always made it know what the source of the weps are, the WGS was simply to keep other servers from just grabing the weps without haveing to do the work CV did. If it were not for WGS I would have never know what CE was. I have played regular CE servers and its in no way the same! I hate the huge Download. Even downloading the mod outside of ut as you suggest is no fun. I personally don't find servers on the web and look to see what I need to have installed before I can play on that server. I usually simply go into ut look for servers in the list. If I hit huge Downloads....Next...I have better things to do with my time.
Maybe the weapon naming could have been a bit different like:
Chaos <weapon name> - WGS
CV has always run hands down the BEST server. He knows his audience very well and has a very loyal fan base. People have become such good friends on his server that Clans have started from meeting on his server.
CV Keep doing what you do! if this is the way it has to be we'll have to play without Chaos (too bad) you need to do what is right for you... I don't think that this is right.
I feel badly that CE feels this way... not sure if I'll support your mod from this point forward.
Naturally we'd like to have him work with us, instead of against us, but we're not going to suddenly change a Very long, rather successful history of this mod based on that alone. If you are unaware of our history, that's something you can investigate on your own. But we are not new to this, and my guess is that we've much more 'history' ahead of us.
Also, I'm glad you like his server. I'm sure he's happy too. But there are other folks who play on other servers as well. It all doesn't begin and end with your group.
But if you choose to see the world from only your viewpoint, that is your choice.
I love VCTF. Sounds interesting cvroy. As I mentioned, we'd be happy to talk to you about the options in our GUI, and the additional ones in our INI, that we have created just for folks like yourself.cvroy wrote:BTW, when is the next version going to be out... I am making a poll over on the WGS site to see if the people might want to make it a chaos VCTF server. but I'd like to talk with you on making certain featues accessible when not playing the full chaos mod.
It seems that this conversation should be supplied for commentary on the atari forums..
I'm glad you supply this stuff for free, and your server, and your forums. I believe we all do in one from or another hence the word. Community.
To a lot of us you are still a relatively new mod in the grande scheme of UT development. I appritiate your obvious talent and commitment and wish you well. A solution would be to supply a public redirect server with your mod present that would accept a redirect from our redirect servers. Mabey the bandwidth bill would change a few opinions.
Shadowcat
I'm glad you supply this stuff for free, and your server, and your forums. I believe we all do in one from or another hence the word. Community.
To a lot of us you are still a relatively new mod in the grande scheme of UT development. I appritiate your obvious talent and commitment and wish you well. A solution would be to supply a public redirect server with your mod present that would accept a redirect from our redirect servers. Mabey the bandwidth bill would change a few opinions.
Shadowcat
THank you. THough I doubt Atari forums is a good place to debate this issue.
And just fyi, our server admin FurrySound has in fact gone out of his way to supply a redirect server to folks who were wanting to run Chaos but were unable to for some reason.
That is further evidence that we are in fact trying to be very selfless, and create something for fun, and to help those who are trying.
And just fyi, our server admin FurrySound has in fact gone out of his way to supply a redirect server to folks who were wanting to run Chaos but were unable to for some reason.
That is further evidence that we are in fact trying to be very selfless, and create something for fun, and to help those who are trying.