Deathstorm wrote:Look, if you want a story, play a RPG or read a book. All I want to do when I play UT2K4 is kill other players. As the sang goes "if you build it they will come", well when I check the chaos, or chaos weapons filter they don't come. Why is this? I don't know, I love chaos it is a great mod. I have a text file with a list of them about 7 I think, but I don't think typing each one in is something I should have to do. I have 2 on my fav. list, but they both have maps I don't have, ya great lets dowload these big maps on my 56k. One is a stupid ONS map, I hate that game type. So please donate a server to the chaos fund. No dumb dual servers, I want guns.
well RPG sucks.. i want balanced team play. not one guy with super damage power and wont die after hit by 3 deemers. And all you want to do in UT2k4 is kill players, then good.. thats what its there for. But then you just want the chaos weapon packs, and mutators. You won't get a crowd for that, nor multiple crowded servers for it. Just like you dont have long lasting crowds for any of the weapon packs. Monkey Matrix mutator is very cool, but no one hosts a server with it, as the route goes with most mutators, they lose their appeal or there is something else out there. My point is that chaos is being released as a mod, but the only thing that is really modded to be different is the Duel/melee stuff. The rest can all be done with weapon packs and mutators offered seperately. I'm not saying they should drop all their Chaos related stuff, just also add a team based, plot/goal oriented gametype that develops the melee side of things more, that is the only thing that will keep a strong fan base. Or like Omen said, have some sort of Assault type game for the gun weapons, and some other plot oriented gametype for melee weapons. But whenever you allow ut2k4 weaps to work in your mod or along with your mod, it just becomes an alternative weapon pack.
Thats why we push or Duel so much, thats the only thing that stand out from the normal shoot'em up weapons and (IMO) puts chaos on the map as a mod, rather than a weapon pack.
Mutators and Weapons die fast, and chaos is just a huge pack of small things:
Grapple - Mutator
Kick - Mutator
Relics - Mutator
Chaos Weapons - WeaponPack
Hoverboard - Vehicle Pack
Duel - Mod (potential to be Total Conversion)
So the Duel mod is really what many of us call the "CHAOS MOD". The rest I just call UT2004 with the kick mutator, or Onslaught with the Hoverboard vehicle pack. Thats why so often you will see us say "Chaos needs work, the axe is broken" meaning "Duel needs work..." We just dont think of any of the other stuff as the Chaos mod, just chaos released side mutators for ut2004. And with mine being the only server I see with people on it (hence the point of this post), its clear to at least some of us that we aren't the only ones that feel this way: Melee is where its at.