IMPORTANT MESSAGE!

DemonHunter · Post by **DemonHunter** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:29 am

STALKER is going to freaking own.

Too bad I won't have a good enough computer for a LOOOOOOOOONG time

<-- Hates being a poor student!

neolith · Post by **neolith** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:41 am

Ok, now that I've played about an hour of HL2 I must admit that it's indeed one of the best games I've ever played! It does just the same to me like the original HL - I am amazed by its gameplay!

However at the same time STEAM is the worst thing I've ever encountered in gaming since I started playing SpaceInvaders on a penny arcade when I was a little kid!

Since it links up with Valve during the install and everytime you play, people without internet access cannot play the game. Same for notebook user without WLAN. Stupid!

Also if STEAM has to do that, why-oh-why do I have to enter a code as long as my arm? I thought STEAM just did a check via internet if I do have an original copy. I payed for the game and in contrast to those who run a cracked copy, I am the poor bastard to mess with the darn copy protection?

And to make it even better STEAM takes ages to initialize, check back on the currently installed games and their files and to start the game.

If the game wasn't so good this far, I would've returned it by now.

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:13 pm

neolith wrote:Ok, now that I've played about an hour of HL2 I must admit that it's indeed one of the best games I've ever played! It does just the same to me like the original HL - I am amazed by its gameplay!

However at the same time STEAM is the worst thing I've ever encountered in gaming since I started playing SpaceInvaders on a penny arcade when I was a little kid!

Since it links up with Valve during the install and everytime you play, people without internet access cannot play the game. Same for notebook user without WLAN. Stupid!

Also if STEAM has to do that, why-oh-why do I have to enter a code as long as my arm? I thought STEAM just did a check via internet if I do have an original copy. I payed for the game and in contrast to those who run a cracked copy, I am the poor bastard to mess with the darn copy protection?

And to make it even better STEAM takes ages to initialize, check back on the currently installed games and their files and to start the game.

If the game wasn't so good this far, I would've returned it by now.

ive read that Steam also dl's over 100mb....Thanks Valve,due to you people have to install a steaming pile of dung

Gotta say that i still dont understand anything of its plot...why dont Xen fight humans for example?

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:19 pm

Well , I see steam as a necessary evil. In my opinion once you get used to it it isnt so bad. if you used steam, theres No CDs to keep track of , and you can loan out your steam account to friends without having to worry about scratches and such. then again. I have an internet connection . . .

Isnt there a way to run steam in an offline mode?

I'm also for it because it nets the developer more money than they would make through normal distribution methods. Partly because I believe valve deserves it , and partly because I intend to get into the game development industry , and supporting steam might pave the way towards cleaner , less evil online distribution programs , and improve my chances at making more if I were to work at a company that uses such a program.

jb · Post by jb » Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:16 pm

neolith wrote:Since it links up with Valve during the install and everytime you play, people without internet access cannot play the game. Same for notebook user without WLAN. Stupid!

Well I thought there was a way to play in off-line mode? Also the idea was you could get the latest updates to you game auto-magicly this way. I know anytime I play CS:S It usally has to download a few things before I can play. Thats kind of cool...

If the game wasn't so good this far, I would've returned it by now.

I got my version of HL2 via ATIs 9600 i got a last year. So I installed steam a few months ago. It synce up and started to download all of the HL1 stuff. Then the CS:S stuff. Finally the HL2 stuff. For this type of method I only had to enter the one code (from the ATI card) once and never really have had to mess with it. Its been quite painless...so I guess now its a mixed bag. Some have lots of trouble slow down and issues. Others have none..

neolith · Post by **neolith** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:06 pm

jb wrote:Well I thought there was a way to play in off-line mode? Also the idea was you could get the latest updates to you game auto-magicly this way. I know anytime I play CS:S It usally has to download a few things before I can play. Thats kind of cool...

If anyone knows how to do this, please tell me!

I know that it might make updating a lot easier (especially for CS, where the updates for some time came faster than you could dl them), but other Games like WarCraft3 or Diablo did the same thing without an annoyance like STEAM...
Plus I don't play CS anymore. And I didn't touch the old HL1 either. I just want to play HL2. So I guess you're right jb, it depends on how you use the software. Or how you don't use it.

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:24 pm

neolith wrote:
jb wrote:Well I thought there was a way to play in off-line mode? Also the idea was you could get the latest updates to you game auto-magicly this way. I know anytime I play CS:S It usally has to download a few things before I can play. Thats kind of cool...
If anyone knows how to do this, please tell me!

I know that it might make updating a lot easier (especially for CS, where the updates for some time came faster than you could dl them), but other Games like WarCraft3 or Diablo did the same thing without an annoyance like STEAM...
Plus I don't play CS anymore. And I didn't touch the old HL1 either. I just want to play HL2. So I guess you're right jb, it depends on how you use the software. Or how you don't use it.

THere is no offline play mode

Steaming POS,THe only anti-piracy measure that hurts ALL users!

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:11 pm

TKATK wrote: THere is no offline play mode

Steaming POS,THe only anti-piracy measure that hurts ALL users!

nono , im pretty sure that at one point I was asked whether I wanted to continue in offline mode when my net went out . . .

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:59 pm

Pepito wrote:
TKATK wrote: THere is no offline play mode

Steaming POS,THe only anti-piracy measure that hurts ALL users!
nono , im pretty sure that at one point I was asked whether I wanted to continue in offline mode when my net went out . . .

if you dont have net you cant enable and download the 100mb of files needed to run the game,its just for show

n00blike · Post by **n00blike** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:35 pm

Pariah and F.E.A.R. look awsome, IMO

HL2 should lose 2 points because you need to install and play online

SideWinder · Post by **SideWinder** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 6:19 pm

whatch jo0 talkin bout willis???

im playin HL2 in offline mode rite now, ON MY OLD COMP WITH A WORCE THAN CRAP CONNECTION, u gotta set you steam accout for offline mode, then itll DL some stuff, and play like normal, the thing i hate is that i cant play HL2 on my new comp, some thing from the Fourth CD was permanantly removed when i installed it on the old on i guess...

neolith · Post by **neolith** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:51 pm

SideWinder wrote:some thing from the Fourth CD was permanantly removed when i installed it on the old on i guess...

That's impossible. But maybe your CD drive has problems with the disc.

The_0men · Post by **The_0men** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:33 pm

I dont really find steam anoying.... only when it sucks my resources to dust and my computer has a meltdown do i cuss it ever being made...
Somthing that pisses me off is sdk, its just so buggy, i mean people have to install it over and over to get it right...-_-. The story was pritty good though...even though i didnt have hl and dont know what black messa is its still v cool story! I wanna have HL3 need to know about G-man...

Mick · Post by **Mick** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:12 pm

I've completed half life, opposing forces, blue shift and half life 2 and I still don't know whether I should like gman or punch him in the face

It's nice to see he's still around in the background, though he's much harder to spot than in the original.

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:15 pm

if the story left you wondering , this link should clearthings up. Note . SPOILERS AHEAD

http://fragfiles.org/~hlstory//timeline.htm