Problems with ChaosuUT version 1.1 mod

Warhammer · Post by **Warhammer** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 9:09 am

First off I wish to thank everybody that helped create ChaosUT because its the best mod out there for general UT and hardcore DM, me and my friends use it frequently. Now on to the problems: the first is I have ChaosUT version 1.0 and when I downloaded the update to version 1.1 all went well except when i got into the game the mod was listed under the mutators selection file but i couldn't edit any of the options that were available to me in the version 1.0 (like the turrent settings and button configs for turrets, grappling hook, and kamakazi), the ChaosUT configs option is still found under the drop down menu where the "Force Default Changes" button is and when i select it nothing happens. also when i get into the game the ChaosUT mod doesn't work, nothing is replaced, its as if the mod wasn't present in the mutators list. I wanted to test the mod out in single play before using it on online play, just to get used to the new changes in the update, but this problem is making it really hard to do that. Also another big problem is the patch for UT to update from previous versions to version 436 doesnt work, full 8mb download and when i run the installer i get this message when it is checking the CD's botpack.u: "File System\Botpack.u from the CD-ROM is not the expected version. Therefore Unreal Tournament can't be patched". I have version 432 of the Unreal Tournament GOTY copy, is there a specific patch that only works for the GOTY version (and the regular patch does not), and does the ChaosUT version 1.1 only work on version 436? I have found a GOTY update to version 436 but its for Linuix and i have windows OS (ME version), any help would be greatly appreciated since I love your mod for UT and i hope your mod for UT2k3 will be just a great.

Post by **R.Flagg** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:48 pm

Howdy WarHammer! First of all, thanks for the kind words, that is our 'pay', and you have just filled the coffers! Thanks.

2ndly, this one is new to me;

"File System\Botpack.u from the CD-ROM is not the expected version. Therefore Unreal Tournament can't be patched"

It sounds as if you have a botched copy of the game. Hope that's not the case, but it sounds like it. I suppose it could be a botched copy of the patch, maybe redownload that to start.

Technically speaking, I think we did establish that CUT 1.1 works on UT version 432, but I DO NOT recommend that. Please, do us all a favor and go to version 436 before you continue.

And no, there is not a special upgrade from Epic for the GOTY edition. A 436 patch is a 436 patch. I suggest you redownload that and try again.

Also, the ChaosUT v1.1 Upgrade, is only for those who have a functioning version of 1.0. Which I think you said you did, but I want to make that clear. (as I have replied to about 6 emails over the past couple weeks asking the same thing)

Unlike me, are you on cable/ISDN? If so, and if it were me, I'd start by getting a new 436 patch, and the FULL ChaosUT v1.1, and go from there.

Try this out and let me/us know what happens.

Let's assume you get it running, do you guys ever play online? Or considered it? While I uninstalled my copy of UT after I got the UT2 demo, I've been lately getting the urge to reinstall and re-enjoy! Would love to play some with you and your buddies.

My good friend FurrySound has a Chaos v1.1 public server: 205.136.13.246:7777

Let me know if you folks ever want to get on there and have a go.

Good luck, and come back and let us know what's happening. Even if it works please, just so we know.

Cya

jb · Post by jb » Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:48 pm

Warhammer,

sorry to hear about your issues but yes we required ChoasUTv1+ to have 4.36. I would first like to get you to 4.36 as I feel that should help this issues. Then we can help if you still have issues (as that will rule out some things by having the 436 patch). So you not able to find a windows version of 436 that works with your GOTY CD correct?

Post by **R.Flagg** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:50 pm

hehe, mornin' Jb.

Corvus|CL · Post by **Corvus|CL** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:34 pm

Wow, you guys replied in the same minute, good timing...

I bought the UT GOTYE about one and a half year ago. But UT from these GOTYE CDs is UT v436. As far as I know is v436 (no prior version) included in the GOTY Edition, never heard about a GOTYE version of UT with v432. And I am also able to patch my v436 GOTYE with the normal v436 patch (wouldn't make any sense, but tested about a year ago

).
Maybe you have patched v436 GOTYE with v432 patch and now it doesn't work to patch v432 back to 436 or you have a corrupted file, in both cases a reinstall of UT could help.
Besides, I heard about another problem to patch some UT versions which were bundled with graphics cards. Maybe you have a problem like this.
For this reason there is a legal "No Delta" patch wich allows you to patch without the need to insert the CD to patch.
Try the official site for the Unreal Engine: http://unreal.epicgames.com/TournamentVersions.htm
and look for a mirror of this "no delta" patch and try to patch UT with this patch and try if this patch works.

Warhammer · Post by **Warhammer** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:38 am

Bad news, durring the download of the 436 nodelta ut patch, my getright downloader deleted the file it was downloading, it was almost done too, just 20 more minuets and it would have been done. Is there a smaller file of the nodelta patch (like somewhere around 8mb like the regular patch)? because i dont want to sit through another 4hr download like that one. anyways i've already tried uninstalling UT removing all 3rd party maps, mods, skins and such (stuff that didn't come with the 2 CDs), and it solved an earlier problem (some problem that denied me access to anything ut related on the game from the game itself to the editor "read file beyond EOF 0+4\0" but that was solved by uninstalling UT and getting rid of the stuff and when i installed everything back again it worked fine. so if there is a smaller version of the nodelta patch can u guys please direct me in the right direction, and always thanks for your help.

FurrySound · Post by **FurrySound** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:59 pm

nodelta patch and other issues...

So after you install your version of UT, what version does it say it is? 432? 436? or some other?

If you want, I can burn the nodelta patch, UT Chaos v1.1 Final files and the bonus packs and send it to you

FurrySound{Moo}

Warhammer · Post by **Warhammer** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 3:52 am

FurrySound my UT goty game says its version 432, and the idea of you burning the stuff to cd sounds great but let me see some other options, like the servers running at my school run a T1 connection and a nice section of the computers come with cd burners and if i could get access to the regular net i could get it from there, so ill think about your offer but if the other idea works out then at least thanks for the offer. oh yea i almost forgot, when i install the chaos mod from the 2nd cd the rocket arenas didnt install properly, saying around 98% done "General Protection Fault", fatal error message and UT installer exits and i have to reboot my entire computer before i can run anything else. maybe this has something to do with the problems i have, is there a place where i can download the entire set of RA maps that originaly came with the cd as a map pack somewhere? in light of all these problems i almost have enough money to buy UT2k3, from what i hear its great and its crap, should i buy it or save my money for something else? also will my comp handle it; i have a PIII 450, GeForce2 64mb video, Yamaha OPL-X soundcard, latest version of DirectX, and a 24read/4write/2rewrite CD burner and a 24x CD rom drive

FurrySound · Post by **FurrySound** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 4:57 am

The video will handle it, the cpu won't... I have a similar video card and its fine, but my CPU P3-800 has trouble at anything about 640x480 on online games... going to upgrade for Christmas.

As for UT... try installing just the Chaos v1.1 full edition on top of v4.36 with bonus packs 1 and 4 (they should be installed before Chaos)... if you get the nodelta one at school... Let me know..

FurrySound{Moo}

Lothar{Moo} · Post by **Lothar{Moo}** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 9:09 am

Hiya Warhammer!

I have to agree with my Moo'st esteemed colleague, Mr FurrySound on the CPU thing. Says right on the box it requires a P3 or Athlon 733 MHz processor. Sorry dood, save the coin for a faster chip! Your vidcard will take it fine though, I also have a GeForce2 64Mb card.

...and also, strictly for the record... the Rocket Arena mod found on the 2nd disk of your UT GOTY game is a completely separate mod and has nothing to do with Chaos, CUT or Chaotic Dreams.
The Volatile Ammo and Volatile Weapon mutators come with RA and are known to cause problems with CUT which is why I don't bother installing RA at all. It's not nearly as cool as Chaos anyway

Good luck!

MrG{DRGN} · Post by **MrG{DRGN}** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 6:24 pm

Uh...maybe I missed something above, but I'm reading my UT GOTYE box, and it says

'Intel Pentium 200mhz or AMD K6 200mhz or better processor" so what are you reading? oh yeah, and it comes as version 4.32. I distinctly remember flagg telling me to get the 4.36 patch when I bought it......... unless I really am halucinating......

CNY CHAOS 66.67.192.159:27910

LoQtUS · Post by **LoQtUS** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 6:39 pm

CNY CHAOS 66.67.192.159:27910

CUT or CDM????

MrG{DRGN} · Post by **MrG{DRGN}** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 8:20 pm

CDM Sorry I don't play enough CUT to warrant running a server for it. and to be honest I've been playing mostly a mod for q2 called giex lately. www.planetquake.com/giex You'll find me there under the name "dragon"

That is all.

CNY CHAOS 66.67.192.159:27910

Post by **R.Flagg** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 9:26 pm

Greetings MrG,

I hope you'll give our next version of Chaos a shot as well. Ya' know, some people say UT2003 is very 'Quake-ish', perhaps it'll be to your liking, being an old Q2Chaos fan. Tried it? Playing it?

FurrySound has a vanilla UT2003 server running for now;

Moo'vin Hoovin Chaotic Meadows 205.136.13.150:7777

It's at 6 player max, and it would be good to have you filling one of the slots. Come on out if you can.

But anyway, back to the discussion, we might be mix and matching our UT's here, guys. UT2 says P3 or 733 etc. on the box, but I don't have my UT box handy.

And I've actually heard that depending on where/when you got it, your GOTYE might be 432, or 436.

Clear as mud yes?

FurrySound · Post by **FurrySound** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 9:27 pm

Lothar and I were talking about UT 2003... you had asked about that... or am I going

FurrySound{Moo}