Erm...Hope I Didn't Miss This, But...

[jeditobe1]

Also:

Any chance you have any chaos files in your normal UT2004 folders (only ones that should have any are the System folder, which should have a few .int, .ucl, and .det files. If there are any files in the normal UT2004 folders, especially if they are old files, they will cause the game to function improperly (and note that uninstalling UT2004 and/or chaos will not remove them, either).

[FesterSilently]

My "CompatMode" is *indeed* set to false; I *did* try dumping some of the ChaosUT system files into the main game system file folder...AFTER the fact (and when I uninstall a game, if there's no clean install of Windows coming, I always delete the program folder after uninstall, and then I go hunting with RegCleaner after a restart. In other words - all the old files/keys ARE gone.); and here's my logfile:

Log: Log file open, 01/16/05 03:01:02
Init: Name subsystem initialized
Init: Detected: Microsoft Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
Init: Version: 3339 (128.29)
Init: Compiled: Nov 11 2004 10:49:37
Init: Command line: -mod=chaosut2
Init: Character set: Unicode
Init: Base directory: C:\UT2004\System\
Init: Ini:..\chaosut2\System\chaosut2.ini UserIni:..\chaosut2\System\chaosut2User.ini
Init: Build label: UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2004-11-11_10.48]
Init: Object subsystem initialized
Log: nv4_disp.dll/NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT -=[zer0point]=-
Log: Game class is 'GameInfo'
Log: Bringing Level Entry.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 4.668000...
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
Log: Browse: ChaosNoIntro.ut2?Name=Braxxisz?Character=Barktooth?Sex=M
Log: Collecting garbage
Log: Purging garbage
Log: Garbage: objects: 27776->27776; refs: 286205
Log: Game class is 'CinematicGame'
Log: Bringing Level ChaosNoIntro.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 9.768000...
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
Log: ALAudio: Using DirectSound to record audio.
ScriptLog: New Player Braxxisz id=012bc1b4fe5a306a41c7250c9e345770
Log: Opened viewport
Log: Enter SetRes: 1600x1200 Fullscreen 1
Log: Using back-buffer format 22(32-bit)
Log: Using depth-buffer format 77(32-bit)
Log: Creating device
Log: xD3DHelper::Init (QuadEmulation)
Log: OS doesn't support IME.
Log: Startup time: 11.964000 seconds
Log: Precaching: ChaosNoIntro.LevelInfo0
Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes
Log: Allocating 16384 byte dynamic index buffer.
Log: Finished precaching geometry in 0.061 seconds
Log: Finished precaching textures in 0.000 seconds
Debug: ChaosGUI_MainMenu.Opened() Sender:Package.ChaosGUI_MainMenu
Log: URL: Adding default option Name=Braxxisz
Log: URL: Adding default option Character=Barktooth
Log: Browse: Index.ut2?disconnect?Name=Braxxisz?Character=Barktooth
Log: Failed; returning to Entry
ScriptLog: ChaosGUI_MainMenu NotifyLevelChange PendingConnection:False
Log: GP=FALSE
Log: Spawning new actor for Viewport WindowsViewport
ScriptLog: New Player Braxxisz id=012bc1b4fe5a306a41c7250c9e345770
Log: Static mesh batches: 0 vertex bytes, 0 index bytes
ScriptLog: Using the ChaosUT MapListManger
Debug: ChaosGUI_MainMenu.Opened() Sender:None
ScriptLog: Attempting to close a non-existing menu page
Log: URL: Adding default option Name=Braxxisz
Log: URL: Adding default option Character=Barktooth
Log: Browse: DM-CBP2-Niflheim?BonusVehicles=false?Game=ChaosGames.ChaosxTeamDeathMatch? Mutator=AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics,ChaosGames.ChaosUT,XGame.MutQuadJump ,XGame.MutSlomoDeath,XGame.MutVampire?bAutoNumBots=True?Name=Braxxisz?Character=Barktooth
Log: Collecting garbage
Log: Purging garbage
Log: Garbage: objects: 49797->47559; refs: 628518
Log: Game class is 'ChaosxTeamDeathMatch'
Log: Bringing Level DM-CBP2-Niflheim.myLevel up for play (0) appSeconds: 35.608000...
Log: (Karma): Autodetecting CPU for SSE
Log: (Karma): Using SSE Optimizations
ScriptLog: Mutators AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics,ChaosGames.ChaosUT,XGame.MutQuadJump,XGame.MutSlomoDeath,XGame.MutVampire
ScriptLog: ChaosUT2 found 141 possible spawn points for Relics/Gravbelt
ScriptLog: ChaosUT2 loaded the following Relics for this map: Regen...Sheild...Speed...Strength...Vampire...Vengance...
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02DD) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02E5) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02F7) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02FF) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02DD) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02E5) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02F7) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02FF) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02DD) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02E5) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02F7) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02FF) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02DD) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02E5) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02F7) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02FF) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02DD) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02E5) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02F7) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02FF) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02DD) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02E5) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02F7) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:02FF) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:0350) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:0358) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:0364) Accessed None 'WPB'
Warning: WarpingPickupHandler DM-CBP2-Niflheim.WarpingPickupHandler (Function ChaosGames.WarpingPickupHandler.Activate:036C) Attempt to assign variable through None
ScriptLog: GameInfo::InitGame : bEnableStatLogging False
ScriptLog: bAutoNumBots: True
ScriptLog: found ChaosUT running, will not reload it.
Log: SR: Loaded grammar file ../Speech\TDM.xml
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:050B) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0513) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:061A) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0630) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0646) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:064E) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0477) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:047F) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:061A) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0630) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0646) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:064E) Attempt to assign variable through None
Log: Spawning new actor for Viewport WindowsViewport
ScriptLog: New Player Braxxisz id=012bc1b4fe5a306a41c7250c9e345770
Log: Precaching: DM-CBP2-Niflheim.LevelInfo0
Log: Static mesh batches: 3347856 vertex bytes, 585804 index bytes
Log: Allocating 16384 byte dynamic index buffer.
Log: Allocating 73800 byte dynamic index buffer.
Log: Allocating 104808 byte dynamic index buffer.
Log: Finished precaching geometry in 1.657 seconds
Log: Finished precaching textures in 2.665 seconds
ScriptLog: Initializing Chaos PRI for DM-CBP2-Niflheim.ChaosxTeamDeathMatch_PlayerController
ScriptLog: START MATCH
Log: Preprocessing: Vertex stream total vertices: 62 Orig wedges: 62
Log: Preprocessing: Vertex stream total vertices: 86 Orig wedges: 86
Log: appRequestExit(0)
Exit: Preparing to exit.
Log: Purging garbage
Log: Unbound to Window.dll
Log: Unbound to Core.dll
Log: Unbound to Engine.dll
Exit: Game engine shut down
Log: Unbound to WinDrv.dll
Exit: Windows client shut down
Log: Unbound to D3DDrv.dll
Log: Unbound to XGame.dll
Log: Unbound to IpDrv.dll
Log: Unbound to Editor.dll
Log: Unbound to Fire.dll
Log: Unbound to XInterface.dll
Log: Unbound to UWeb.dll
Log: Unbound to Onslaught.dll
Log: Unbound to ALAudio.dll
Log: Waiting for file streaming thread to finish...
Exit: OpenAL Audio subsystem shut down.
Log: (Karma): Level Karma Terminated.
Log: (Karma): MePoolMallocDestroy(): 122908048 structs still allocated
Log: Garbage: objects: 56840->0; refs: 628518
Exit: Object subsystem successfully closed.
Exit: Exiting.
Log: FileManager: Reading 0 GByte 247 MByte 847 KByte 50 Bytes from HD took 16.440256 seconds (16.243256 reading, 0.197000 seeking).
Log: FileManager: 7.081922 seconds spent with misc. duties
Uninitialized: Name subsystem shut down
Uninitialized: Memory Allocation Status
Uninitialized: Curr Memory 0.239M / 5.863M
Uninitialized: Peak Memory 172.400M / 176.102M
Uninitialized: Allocs 1058 Current / 12801265 Total
Uninitialized: Log file closed, 01/16/05 03:11:18



Anybody got any clues?

Fester

[lord_kungai]

ScriptLog: Mutators AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics,ChaosGames.ChaosUT,XGame.MutQuadJump,XGame.MutSlomoDeath,XGame.MutVampire

...

Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:050B) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0513) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:061A) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0630) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0646) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:064E) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0477) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:047F) Attempt to assign variable through None
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:061A) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0630) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:0646) Accessed None 'PhysCharger'
Warning: MutItemPhysics DM-CBP2-Niflheim.MutItemPhysics (Function AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics.CheckReplacement:064E) Attempt to assign variable through None

What is this mutator: AngelItemPhysics.MutItemPhysics ?

Just a query...

[FesterSilently]

...from one of the Community Bonus Packs (I think the first one). It allows all of the weapon/health spawn points to be moved when hit with enough force (like a rocket launcher, say?).

Makes for a lot more challenge when shits being blown all over the map and the spawn points are not static!

Fester

[TKATK]

iirc it replaces weapons,try removing it

[jb]

TKATK,
it could be an issue of the Mutators fighting. Can you try it first with out any muts and see if it works? Then add the back one at a time till it breaks. I am pretty sure its the angle items...

[FesterSilently]

*What* is "iirc"? You mentioned it in your last post when you asked me to show the logfile, but I thought it was a typo or something.

jb - I seriously *doubt* it's the Angel Items Physics mutator, as I'm pretty sure I remember playing with that mod from the first time I used Chaos in UT waaay back in the day. But, in the interest of science, I'll give that a whirl and report back momentarily.

Willing To Try Anything Once,
Fester

[The_0men]

I think i had that angle thing on before and it caused problems....i had so many mutators on i forgot which it messed with :/...

Also the angle thing isnt good if u have pits or other stuff on.....not good finding yourself running around with pistols with no weapons in sight or every weapon in a pit....

[FesterSilently]

Because I'm gonna need *something* to help me while I EAT MY HAT!

I turned off the Angel Item Physics and guess what I got back? Yup. My Chaos weapons. I'll be a sonofabitch - you were 100%, absolutely, positively correct, sir!

I can only assume that the latest build of Angel Items and/or Chaos is just not compatible with the other one, now. WTF.

Too bad I don't know how to mod, or I'd start diggin' around in the code for that particular mutator and see what I might find...

...sonofabitch...

Happy To Be Wrong,
Fester

[azrael]

Glad you sorted your problem. One more target never hurt, right?

Just a leetle piece of advice tho', before you start messin around with anything of the angels' (either of them); ASK FIRST: One; if you ask nicely enough, there is a distinct chance that she will alter the code to suit herself, saving you the trouble and two; if you don't and she finds that you released an altered version of her code without permission, she will hunt you down and kill you, or at least your UT-related internet presence...



P.S. Could you edit your logfile post to insert a break in that long line that starts DM-something-or-other please? It's breaking the table in grand style. Thx.

[FesterSilently]

azrael -

Firstly...thanks for your concern/support (sincerely).

Secondly...*if* I were to "mess around" with anything in my computer, it'd be just that - mine. I would not have the TEMERITY to attempt to despoil or defile the Angels' work by offering up any of my sloppy perambulations through their fine coding as mine own...ever.

Lastly...yah - thanks for the tip - but do you *really* think she/they (is it a "they" or a "she"?) would take the time to poke around their old code just at the request of anonymous piker like me?

Fester

P.S.
Editing of horrifically long logline...done.

[LoQtUS]

It never hurts to ask. I dont know her personaly but, she has always seemed pretty cool to me. I have made entire weapons at the request of one user

[FesterSilently]

...just emailed her through her website (rachel@angelmapper.com) and explained the situation briefly, as well as supplying her a link to this thread.

Keep yer fingers crossed, y'all!

fester

[jb]

We also can tweak our mod to play nicer with her mut. We had a simular compatibility issue with the RPG2004 mod. Except the effect of the two was it crashed UT2004. So we worked with that mod author and the two place nice together!

[azrael]

azrael -

Firstly...thanks for your concern/support (sincerely).

Secondly...*if* I were to "mess around" with anything in my computer, it'd be just that - mine. I would not have the TEMERITY to attempt to despoil or defile the Angels' work by offering up any of my sloppy perambulations through their fine coding as mine own...ever.

Lastly...yah - thanks for the tip - but do you *really* think she/they (is it a "they" or a "she"?) would take the time to poke around their old code just at the request of anonymous piker like me?

Fester

P.S.
Editing of horrifically long logline...done.

In more or less reverse order:

Angel_Mapper is a she, one of the most talented and original mapper/coders out there (where A_M goes, everyone else follows). Angelhe@rt is as far as I know a he and possibly the greatest perfectionist amidst a sea of perfectionists, responsible for about half of everyone's top five UT maps (ordering and placement may vary, but they're there). Collectively they have become known as the Angels, for obvious reasons.
And now I read it back, I seem to have combined the collective plural with a particular singular in a distictly obtuse fashion. Apologies.

Like I said, ask nicely and anything could happen.

Unfortunately some people (deliberately) forget that what other community members do remains theirs, regardles of whether "it was only a re-texture" or not...
And some real unscrupulous types and well meaning newbs have been known to take "tests" and beta code and publish it as someone else's, getting several people in trouble at once. Be careful out there kids..

And thankyou.

P.S. If I remember correctly, iirc stands for "if I remember correctly". AFAIK