Grappling Mut Possible?

Alphasim · Post by **Alphasim** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:26 pm

OK, now we're getting somewhere. So disabling flag drop on grapple is only available in the Chaos UT boot, not in the base game (even copying the .ini command doesn't seem to work. what about copying the game type? i've not tried that yet). Also, now that I know that weapon disablement is through the .ini, it'd help if I knew how. Any answers?

BTW, with all of this work to configure the game for what would seem to a laymen like me as simple on-off options, wouldn't it be easier (and more user-friendly) to re-instate the menu options (including for the mut in base unreal tournament 2k4)?

jb · Post by jb » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:32 pm

Alphasim,

thanks for your input. The "removal" of the options was more of a design trade off. We wanted to slim down the number of options we had. Yes having more options is a good thing but we can not add every possible option and still keep a clean interface. So we tried to keep the options that were used the most in the GUI. The others that were seldom used that were important were moved to the ini and some we felt were no longer needed so just forced them. And at least one moved into a gametype. Again the goal was not to make it harder for people. It was just trying to slim things up and optimize some setting is all. And we know that not every one will agree with our choices.

To prevent the weapons from swaping in, change in your chaosgames.chaosut section CompatMode to True

If you have any other questions please feel free to ask...

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:57 am

i myself would like to see the old options come back too,if you put the melee wep selection elsewhere(or removed the rotating model) there would be more than enough space for a couple of options

jb · Post by jb » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:16 pm

TKATK wrote:i myself would like to see the old options come back too,if you put the melee wep selection elsewhere(or removed the rotating model) there would be more than enough space for a couple of options

I hear ya but the team wanted to consolidate all options down to one page vrs two...

Kaboodles · Post by **Kaboodles** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:47 pm

I got an idea:

How about we let people save their own "versions" of our gametypes to keep things interesting? We could let them create "mini-mutators" that affect weapon placement, health, shields, etc. They could save these settings into a special folder, and have people vote on them after each game. That way, we could have Sniper/Crossbow/etc. Duels without having to use admin console commands and such.

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:44 am

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:58 pm

TKATK · Post by **TKATK** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:11 pm

Pepito wrote:-2

+369

Kaboodles · Post by **Kaboodles** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:22 pm

LoQtUS · Post by **LoQtUS** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:24 pm

Kaboodles_The_Assassin wrote:I got an idea:

How about we let people save their own "versions" of our gametypes to keep things interesting? We could let them create "mini-mutators" that affect weapon placement, health, shields, etc. They could save these settings into a special folder, and have people vote on them after each game. That way, we could have Sniper/Crossbow/etc. Duels without having to use admin console commands and such.

You are kidding right?

Kaboodles · Post by **Kaboodles** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:57 pm

LoQtUS wrote:
You are kidding right?

That depends. What do you think I'm trying to say?

I was thinking of something along the lines of Halo 2's gametype system. They let you make special weapon/shield setups and save them to your hard drive. I have one called Rainbow Six (Human weapons with no shields or radar). I've also tried "Dragon Ball" (Plasma weapons and stuff), and "Dawn of the Dead" (Swords vs Shotguns).

I want a sort of "Mini-Mutators" folder, where you can save these into individual files. People could vote for them after each game in the same way you vote for the next map.

EDIT: I think I understand your concern here. A moddable mod does sound a bit silly. But could we at least use this for Duel? I like Crossbow/Sniper duels, and the only way I've been able to do it is through admin commands with Rythm's AdminPlus mutator.

Also, I'd like to be able to use guns and stuff in Horde Hunters. There's just something about blasting away at hordes of bad guys trying to hack you to pieces.

chaoskirina · Post by **chaoskirina** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:34 am

Kaboodles_The_Assassin wrote: Also, I'd like to be able to use guns and stuff in Horde Hunters. There's just something about blasting away at hordes of bad guys trying to hack you to pieces.

Yes, but that would give an unfair advantage. monsters have melee and no long range abilities while you could be on a cliff blasting the monsters away.

A suggestion ofr this is an all melee or all CUT option for this gametype. for instance, if you click all melee option true then you and the monsters just use melee weps. if it is false, then you and the monsters use CUT weps.

Zachariah · Post by **Zachariah** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:48 am

chaoskirina wrote: if it is false, then you and the monsters use CUT weps.

you mean like a botmatch. . .

Kaboodles · Post by **Kaboodles** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:22 pm

chaoskirina wrote:
Yes, but that would give an unfair advantage. monsters have melee and no long range abilities while you could be on a cliff blasting the monsters away.

Yeah, but there's no fun in that, is there?

Oh, and there are 4 monsters that do have long-range abilities.

chaoskirina · Post by **chaoskirina** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:12 am

Kaboodles_The_Assassin wrote:
chaoskirina wrote:
Yes, but that would give an unfair advantage. monsters have melee and no long range abilities while you could be on a cliff blasting the monsters away.
Yeah, but there's no fun in that, is there?

Oh, and there are 4 monsters that do have long-range abilities.

for the first sentence, that is what I am saying. and for the second sentence, four chaos monsters. whats the chance they will show up or even gang up for it to be fun?