My Link replacement Idea for ChaosUT2:E

[Swift Viper]

The lightning gun is way too easy to snipe with... Here's an idea:

How is the Lightning Gun too easily to snipe with ? It seems just as easy to snipe with it just as any other hitscan sinper weapon, infact a little harder because of the ROF and scope that does not have a clear view.

[Isotope]

Because there is no lead, its an instant-hit weapon. You can, much more easily, hit somone across a large open map with the lightning gun than with the chaos sniper rifle.

[Shadowstar]

Chaos already has a sniping weapon. The lightning gun isn't neccessary anymore. Therefore, changing the way it works so that it acts like a totally different weapon would be a good idea. I like the idea of making the lightning gun a tesla/tractor beam gun... Very good idea there!

[formatter]

maybe...
posible to change between the tractor beam and the electro mode throught the ammo switch option?

The PFire of thr electro mode will be short bursts of electricity and the alt fire will be charging it, when it reaches the max charge you will have several seconds to relese it if not relesed the charge will overload and damege the player and the srounding several feet.

The adv. weapon option of thr elecro mode could be: an energy field that will protect the player from energy weapons and the CPP bullets will lose speed in proximty to the field, and when entering the field will lose momentum and do less/no damege.

for the tractor beam i have troble thinking... prehaps somethin similar by coloration to the vortx...

[Zambini]

If you check the archives I am sure there was a thread in which Shadowstar first unleashed his tractor beam plans on the world. It kind of ties in with a lot of what has already been suggested.

Perhaps some kind of electro-lash (with a slight lag so that it could be swung at opponents, rather than aimed, like a lightning whip)? Different to the standard Q3 style lightning gun and visually the idea of a massive arc of crackling death is not too shabby.

[R.Flagg]

If you check the archives I am sure there was a thread in which Shadowstar first unleashed his tractor beam plans on the world.

Ok, not to pick on any one person, but once again I felt compelled to make a point. The same point being made in this interview with Cliffyb, when asked about 'an idea'.
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Q: I don't want to make a zillion dollars, but I DO want credit for it and some green. Mostly, I want to see this idea come to life. I don't even know what it would take to pitch the game. So what can I do? -- Tom

A: Ah, the most commonly asked question in the business. Look, I'll just give it to you straight. Odds are your idea is probably already being worked on by someone or there's a technical or financial reason why it hasn't been done yet. (<-- Cliffyb's response of course)
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And in today's Chaos-related example, I want to show a couple of scribbles by my friend Spa (posted here today w/o permission, btw), which were originally posted in our dev forums at least as early as Sept. 29, 2002.

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The thread was started by Spa about possible new link gun features. He's showing an idea about a player using a possible new feature of link gun which grabs and holds players, in 2nd sketch showing how maybe it could be used by pulling players off of a ledge.

And please, this is not trying to pick on anyone, or brag about "firsties". Simply to remind you that it's difficult to claim an idea as original.

Same thing comes to mind when I see mod teams, or potential mod teams, out there complaining that Epic (or maybe another mod team) stole 'their idea' that they posted on some forums somewhere.

Certainly folks are out there coming up with these things on their own, and it shows creativity. But this is not about stealing ideas. Only saying that coming up with it on your own, doesn't mean it's original.

These comments are mine alone, but IMO please keep the ideas coming, I know I enjoy reading them. But also keep this post in mind if you see something in later Chaos versions that were at least similar to things discussed here.

Because while there are many creative folks that have posted here (and that rocks!), just please don't forget that Mr. Spa and the rest of Chaos team have been at this for awhile as well. We just don't usually do it in the public forums.

[Shadowstar]

I don't really care who came up with it first. If that was why I pitched ideas, I probably wouldn't have many ideas at all. The only thing I care about is making a great game even better. Even if someone else came up with an idea first, sometimes things get forgotten, especially when there are other things that need to be worked on at the time. So, if more than one person comes up with an idea, all it means is that there is more than one person that thinks it would improve the game.

All I really care about is seeing how the idea is recieved by people, and whether it gets in or not.

[formatter]

Sry probebly posted it on the wrong thread.

[Zambini]

To R. Flagg...

Sorry for failing to properly check who thought of what first - it was an honest mistake. I vaguely recalled the tractor beam idea being mentioned in an earlier thread and thought I'd mention it, as it seemed pertinent. Didn't mean to step on anyone's toes!

[Isotope]

Personally, I'd like to see the tesla/tractor gun have a large part that looks like the "charger" of the lighning gun. 4 quarter-circle plates that move in/out depending on if its firing or not...

My 3 cents.

[StarGunner]

...and perhaps a lightning ammo?

More like a addon to the the Lightning gun that makes it's shots that hit run though up to 4 players/bots ie lightning jumps from persion to persion that would make that gun better with it's lower fireing time. and makes it more on pare with the sniper riffle. You could also make it's shots have more a curve to them, to help out with the sniper spaming probs you get online. As a added ammo type for the Lightning gun that would rock.

I liked the way the lightning gun worked before the first patch. The large curve on it made it a great challange to shoot with.

[Shadowstar]

Im not in favor of making any weapon, especially one from regular UT2k3 more like a chaos weapon (sniper rifle) that already exists.

If we alter the lightning gun, it will be very different, not only from the way it is now, but also different from the other chaos weapons.

[StarGunner]

Im not in favor of making any weapon, especially one from regular UT2k3 more like a chaos weapon (sniper rifle) that already exists.

If we alter the lightning gun, it will be very different, not only from the way it is now, but also different from the other chaos weapons.

Remember that the mod got into the MSUC because it only added to the fun of the game not changeing the way the older guns worked, but only adding more fun toys to play with.

[DJPaul2]

Im not in favor of making any weapon, especially one from regular UT2k3 more like a chaos weapon (sniper rifle) that already exists.

If we alter the lightning gun, it will be very different, not only from the way it is now, but also different from the other chaos weapons.

Remember that the mod got into the MSUC because it only added to the fun of the game not changeing the way the older guns worked, but only adding more fun toys to play with.

Nah. The real reason is that the team's the best looking bunch of mod guys around!

[Zachariah]

Im not in favor of making any weapon, especially one from regular UT2k3 more like a chaos weapon (sniper rifle) that already exists.

If we alter the lightning gun, it will be very different, not only from the way it is now, but also different from the other chaos weapons.

Remember that the mod got into the MSUC because it only added to the fun of the game not changeing the way the older guns worked, but only adding more fun toys to play with.

But they did alter the rocket launcher , and that change IMO , was a great improvement.

t I do agree that if they shouldnt change TOO much of the original game. Howerver this feeling of caution is easily outweighed by my curiosity of the potential telsa coil. an added incentive to grab the LG , now that the CUT sniper rifle has made it inferior.